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Old 11-19-2024, 11:35 AM  
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Another OL tweet but it’s interesting. Notice anything the Bills did?



A lot of times, including the last play of the game, they had 2 DL on one side of the OL crash hard and bull rush the G and T. They see Mahomes flushing out constantly. They crash the OL and flush Mahomes out the way they want and have a LB spy fly to that zone they force Mahomes to go to so he’s got instant pressure in his face.

This also cuts off half of the field. Chargers did this in week 2 and Mahomes struggled badly against it. Bills copied that from Harbaugh and I expect other teams to do the same.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:10 PM   #46
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I think Veach, Andy, and Clark are tired as **** of seeing the offense go the wrong way.

I expect a prototypical overcorrection from Veach this offseason even if it costs the defense in some capacity. I can see it getting wild in terms of the spending/trades.
They already did that, Brown and Rice both got hurt and there hasn't been a LT chance unless you wanted to trade like 3 1's for Joe Alt.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:10 PM   #47
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Best of luck in free agency, Trey!
Thing that sucks for him is he's almost assuredly ending up on one of the perennial bottom feeding squads that are willing to massively overpay to get talent. Although he's already gotten the rings so the last thing to secure is the bag.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:11 PM   #48
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Thing that sucks for him is he's almost assuredly ending up on one of the perennial bottom feeding squads that are willing to massively overpay to get talent. Although he's already gotten the rings so the last thing to secure is the bag.
Robert Hunt v2 dude got the bag as a guard but got it in Carolina.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:11 PM   #49
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Well....what else you wanna do? They've spent picks, money etc.
At this point they need to treat LT like they did receiver. Keep spending picks from Rounds 1-3 until you finally hit on one.

Hell, if they could go back in time, I wonder if they match that 3/24 given to Wylie and try Taylor at LT…
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At this point they need to treat LT like they did receiver. Keep spending picks from Rounds 1-3 until you finally hit on one.

Hell, if they could go back in time, I wonder if they match that 3/24 given to Wylie and try Taylor at LT…
Yeah, just keep swinging at it I guess. It sucks but it's kinda one of those things you get when you win like we do.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:16 PM   #51
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At this point they need to treat LT like they did receiver. Keep spending picks from Rounds 1-3 until you finally hit on one.

Hell, if they could go back in time, I wonder if they match that 3/24 given to Wylie and try Taylor at LT…
How have they not done that already?

24 round 2 Kingley Suamataia
23 round 3 Wanya Morris
22 none
21 none-orlando brown trade
20 round 3 Lucas Niang

That is a 5 year stretch where in 4 of those years a top 3 round draft pick was invested in OT.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:19 PM   #52
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How have they not done that already?

24 round 2 Kingley Suamataia
23 round 3 Wanya Morris
22 none
21 none-orlando brown trade
20 round 3 Lucas Niang

That is a 5 year stretch where in 4 of those years a top 3 round draft pick was invested in OT.
Right, I’m saying they need to keep doing this.

(And just maybe, look in the mirror at how they’re scouting and coaching that position).
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:19 PM   #53
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I don't think the LT spot is as big of an issue as it seems if the rest of the OL was playing well.

Seems like everyyear we go thru them playing bad and then we get a "we're simplifying things" PC and it goes better.
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Right, I’m saying they need to keep doing this.

(And just maybe, look in the mirror at how they’re scouting and coaching that position).
Morris is probably a guard...the issue is they need a LT and finding one outside of the first 10-15 picks is extremely hard.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:22 PM   #55
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:45 PM   #56
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IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.
Yup, and there is no way in hell I'm paying Trey 20 million plus after this year. NO thanks. We could get as much out Allegretti as Trey has given us lately.
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Since Mahomes wants to move around anyway just call more plays where he's designed to roll out to the right.

If I remember right that's what he did on the missed deep ball to Worthy.
I think we need to run some misdirection and play action boots off that. Pat can throw on the run so well and you'd keep the defensive line a hell of a lot more honest too. Sprinkle in a little of the old Shannahan scheme.
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At least Bolton won't require a market resetting contract like Smith allegedly wants. Although I agree that we'd be better served letting him walk as well unless it's significantly cheaper than I'm expecting.
Transition tag seems ideal for Bolton. Let him get offers from other team so we know the market. We can match that and keep him or let him walk
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Good lord, anybody see Carson Steele completely miss a DE -- I think it was Rousseau??

I mean, Steele ran right by him and joined Taylor in a double team. Like Rousseau was a ghost.
I'm sure Pat's able to shake that play off and not let it hurry up his reads at all
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Kingsley’s biggest issue seems (to me) to be kicking out correctly and getting beat outside or inside on the double move when he over-compensates late to the outside.

If he fails to develop that aspect of his game, could we consider slotting him in at RG should we let Trey walk in FA, or LG if Thuney is a cap casualty? Does Kingsley project well at OG?
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