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Old 07-24-2024, 03:04 PM  
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49ers LT Trent Williams is holding out


3 years left on his deal, scheduled to make $20M in 2024.
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Old 07-25-2024, 07:28 AM   #46
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Am I on an island in thinking Purdy is....a good QB?
I think he's good. I also believe playoff success matters a lot, which is why I have him above Herbert. Playoff success > Tangibles and ability imo
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Old 07-25-2024, 07:29 AM   #47
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I don't go that far....
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Old 07-25-2024, 07:32 AM   #48
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Their biggest issue is that they've had a QB playing that way on peanuts and still have had some holes because of the aggressive trading strategy.

When it comes time to pay Brock.....issues will abound.
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Old 07-25-2024, 07:41 AM   #49
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I'd trade Purdy (if I could find a suitor) for as much draft capital as possible and attempt to use that and my first rounder to package a trade up for a QBOTF
A 3rd from NYG?
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Old 07-25-2024, 07:51 AM   #50
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Yeah it's different when it comes to paying him that...because he'll ask for that. I'm not sure where I fall there.
If I can save 50 million a year from paying him AND get picks for him, I'm all over that. I don't think I'd pay him either way though. Especially with that system.
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A 3rd from NYG?
You think that's all you could get out of them?
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If I can save 50 million a year from paying him AND get picks for him, I'm all over that. I don't think I'd pay him either way though. Especially with that system.
As we've seen, starting QB's don't exactly grow on trees though.
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Old 07-25-2024, 08:09 AM   #53
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He would have crippled our cap. Thank goodness Veach is the man.
Naw - he's been super cap-friendly for the 49ers through his first several years there.

I mean, it's not like we'd have won MORE Super Bowls with him instead of OBJ/Taylor, but it's hard to say he'd have truly impacted our cap that much. We'd have made it work.

Williams wouldn't have made the difference in any of our SB runs since we didn't get him. We'd only be talking about 2021 and that one will forever be a "Man, WTF happened to Mahomes in that game?" question.

But it wasn't LT that cost us that Bengals game. It was...something. And we'll likely never know what it was. If Mahomes writes a book after he retires and says he got concussed at some point in the 2nd quarter, it would suddenly make sense. Because that's the worst he's ever looked and it wasn't OBJ that was to blame for it.

Our boy was just bad.
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Old 07-25-2024, 08:12 AM   #54
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If Purdy has another good year and wins at least 1 playoff game again he will 100% hold out this time next year if he doesn’t have a deal.
Oh he can try, but it won't work.

Ultimately the 49ers will have paid him or traded him by camp next season anyway. If they decide he's their future, they're gonna pay him before a holdout becomes necessary. If they decide to pivot, they'll deal him at/near the draft.

But they're not gonna have him enter camp next year as a lame-duck QB on an expiring deal.
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Am I on an island in thinking Purdy is....a good QB?
I think he's possibly a slightly above average QB.

If you ranked him in the top 8, I'd just say you're wrong. That's 'good' -- top 25%.

But I'd put him somewhere in the 12-15 range. Average to slightly above.
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Am I on an island in thinking Purdy is....a good QB?
Yes he’s good. Not elite but good. And Spags himself is high on him.

I would take Purdy over Lamar any day. Purdy is enough of a playmaker, accurate and slightly mobile. Lamar isn’t a great passer and turns the ball over too much.

Say what you want about Purdy but I don’t think he played poorly against us in the SB.
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Yes he’s good. Not elite but good. And Spags himself is high on him.

I would take Purdy over Lamar any day. Purdy is enough of a playmaker, accurate and slightly mobile. Lamar isn’t a great passer and turns the ball over too much.

Say what you want about Purdy but I don’t think he played poorly against us in the SB.
I think that we saw the 49ers absolute best shot and very possibly the best game Purdy can possibly play against the Chiefs and it wasn't good enough.

I think we saw a C- game by Jackson and a situation where Spags BADLY outcoached and outprepared the Ravens staff. And they damn near won anyway and were a fumble at the goalline away from probably pulling it off.

I'd take Jackson as an offensive weapon under center.
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I think he's possibly a slightly above average QB.

If you ranked him in the top 8, I'd just say you're wrong. That's 'good' -- top 25%.

But I'd put him somewhere in the 12-15 range. Average to slightly above.
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Yes he’s good. Not elite but good. And Spags himself is high on him.

I would take Purdy over Lamar any day. Purdy is enough of a playmaker, accurate and slightly mobile. Lamar isn’t a great passer and turns the ball over too much.

Say what you want about Purdy but I don’t think he played poorly against us in the SB.
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I think that we saw the 49ers absolute best shot and very possibly the best game Purdy can possibly play against the Chiefs and it wasn't good enough.

I think we saw a C- game by Jackson and a situation where Spags BADLY outcoached and outprepared the Ravens staff. And they damn near won anyway and were a fumble at the goalline away from probably pulling it off.

I'd take Jackson as an offensive weapon under center.
I'm gonna link these all together for my rebuttal.

I'd put him in the top 10. Now would be be that if he had a differenct coach/system? Probably not. I think we could make that case against Pat here as well though, so it's kinda whatever for me.

Purdy is a good solid QB. Lamar is a 2 time MVP. It's not close.
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I think that we saw the 49ers absolute best shot and very possibly the best game Purdy can possibly play against the Chiefs and it wasn't good enough.

I think we saw a C- game by Jackson and a situation where Spags BADLY outcoached and outprepared the Ravens staff. And they damn near won anyway and were a fumble at the goalline away from probably pulling it off.

I'd take Jackson as an offensive weapon under center.
I still dont think Baltomore wins if the fumble at the goal line doesn't happen. KC would have still been up by 3 and might have changed their offensive approach to the game at that time, which may have lead to another score. Case in point, they could have scored on their last drive had they needed to. They knew what they had to do to beat Baltimore that game, and they did it on both sides of the ball. They knew the defense was going to hold, so they played conservative on offense, for the most part, once they got up by 2 scores, until they needed to open it up.

But I get your point about Jackson.
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As we've seen, starting QB's don't exactly grow on trees though.
Oh I know, and SF hasn't done much to prove to me they'll be able to evaluate and find ne, but I think I would take that chance anyhow.
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