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JPH83 · 02-23-2023, 11:43 AM

People seem a lot more comfortable with limited picks across the DL than I'd expect. Do people feel OK with what we've got there, or that there are other, bigger priorities? I figured I was pretty much indifferent to D and just wanted to stack weapons and protect Mahomes, but now I feel even I'm swinging for DEs and DTs more than most.

Couch-Potato · 02-23-2023, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83

People seem a lot more comfortable with limited picks across the DL than I'd expect. Do people feel OK with what we've got there, or that there are other, bigger priorities? I figured I was pretty much indifferent to D and just wanted to stack weapons and protect Mahomes, but now I feel even I'm swinging for DEs and DTs more than most.

I think it's important to give credit where credit's due, they were the #2 pass rush in the league last year and I think the coaching staff like the DL a lot more than the fanship here at CP.

GloucesterChief · 02-23-2023, 09:16 PM

Just one trade in PFN. I don't think they have updated the ranking for prospects yet. Probably be more accurate after the combine and scouting days.

31.

Anton Harrison
OT Oklahoma
KC
63.

Kayshon Boutte
WR LSU
KC
98.

Calijah Kancey
DT Pittsburgh
trade icon
KC
122.

Nick Hampton
EDGE Appalachian State
KC
134.

Luke Wypler
OC Ohio State
KC
144.

Parker Washington
WR Penn State
trade icon
KC
168.

Brenton Cox Jr.
EDGE Florida
KC
217.

Malik Cunningham
QB Louisville
KC
219.

PJ Mustipher
DT Penn State
KC
227.

DeWayne McBride
RB UAB
KC
251.

Michael Jefferson
WR Louisiana
KC
257.

Jeremy Banks
LB Tennessee

staylor26 · 02-24-2023, 12:14 AM

PFF (5 rounds)

1. Will McDonald IV, EDGE, Iowa St.
2. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati
3. Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota St.
4. Ji'Ayir Brown, S, Penn St.
4. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss
5. Connor Galvin, OT, Baylor

Direckshun · 02-24-2023, 10:22 AM

Did PFN today. It gave me all kinds of unrealistic options like Rice in the 2nd, Battle in the 3rd, Tyler Scott in the 5th and Coburn in the 7th.

But you only have one life to live, so I drafted them.

1. DE BJ Ojulari, LSU -- bendy edge rusher

2. WR Rashee Rice, SMU -- mean, competitive X-receiver with gobs of talent

3. S Jordan Battle, Alabama -- day one starter

4. OT Wanya Morris, Oklahoma -- competition at right tackle

4. RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma -- more depth at a sneaky-shallow position

5. WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati -- future pro bowler

6. TE Will Mallory, Miami
6. CB Tiawan Mullen, Indiana
6. DT Moro Ojomo, Texas
7. LB Anfernee Orji, Vanderbilt
7. DT Keondre Coburn, Texas
7. OG TJ Bass, Oregon

The roster:

QB: Mahomes, Trubisky, Buechele
RB: Pacheco, McKinnon, Gray, Ealy
FB: Burton

WR: Toney, Rice, Marques-Valdez, Moore, Scott, Watson
TE: Kelce, Gray, Bell, Mallory

LT: Brown, Niang
LG: Thuney, Bass
C: Humprey, Reiter
RG: Smith, Kinnard
RT: Niang vs. Morris

DE: Clark, Ojulari
DT: Jones, Wharton
DT: Ojomo, Coburn
DE: Karlaftis, Danna

WLB: Gay, Orji
MLB: Bolton, Chenal
SLB: Chenal, Cochrane

CB: Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Mullen
S: Reid, Battle, Cook, Bush

K: Butker
P: Townsend
LS: Winchester

Direckshun · 02-24-2023, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Just one trade in PFN. I don't think they have updated the ranking for prospects yet. Probably be more accurate after the combine and scouting days.

31.

Anton Harrison
OT Oklahoma
KC
63.

Kayshon Boutte
WR LSU
KC
98.

Calijah Kancey -- if Chris Jones isn't extended
DT Pittsburgh
trade icon
KC
122.

Nick Hampton
EDGE Appalachian State
KC
134.

Luke Wypler
OC Ohio State
KC
144.

Parker Washington
WR Penn State
trade icon
KC
168.

Brenton Cox Jr.
EDGE Florida
KC
217.

Malik Cunningham
QB Louisville
KC
219.

PJ Mustipher
DT Penn State
KC
227.

DeWayne McBride
RB UAB
KC
251.

Michael Jefferson
WR Louisiana
KC
257.

Jeremy Banks
LB Tennessee

I green'd up the strong selections here.

Direckshun · 02-24-2023, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

PFF (5 rounds)

1. Will McDonald IV, EDGE, Iowa St.
2. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati
3. Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota St.
4. Ji'Ayir Brown, S, Penn St.
4. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss
5. Connor Galvin, OT, Baylor

Aside from my obvious obsession with Tyler Scott, I will say that Kraft in the 3rd is absurd value. He's basically Dallas Goedert.

Brown is acceptable in the 4th -- the team needs a third safety. Personally, I'd like the Chiefs to get a safety earlier in the draft than the 4th because I'm not as big a believer in Bryan Cook just yet, but I defer to the coaching staff on that one.

Evans is the only pick I don't like in that crew. I think he's going to be out of the NFL in a year or two.

Abba-Dabba · 02-24-2023, 09:37 PM

Direckshun · 02-25-2023, 11:05 AM

So, I am an absolute whore for defensive line. I can never get enough.

Going EDGE-DT-EDGE with the first three picks would be my dream come true, but it will never happen.

Brett Veach probably wrote on his mirror with a bar of soap: "WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP PATRICK MAHOMES TODAY"

And there's just no chance he goes two straight days of the NFL Draft without helping Mahomes.

That said........ I'd like to know who else was on the board with your 2nd round pick, but Mazi Smith is enticing.

Nolan Smith, who I did not initially think fit our defense, is starting to get some run with me lately. I can dig that as a first round pick, but ask me again in a week.

Zach Harrison doesn't have a lot of support on this forum, and I'm one of them. I'm just not a fan of the guy, I think he's Tanoh Kpassagnon, and while that's not horrific with a 3rd round pick, I just feel we can get more bang for our buck elsewhere.

JPH83 · 02-25-2023, 03:23 PM

I normally like to approach these making some assumptions about FA. In this case I'm expecting Wylie, Hardman, JJSS and Thornhill all to have priced themselves out of a return, and Clark moved on from. So it's another year of churn and burn. But i'm also assuming moves at DE and DT in FA, something like Arden Key or a 1 year flier on Davenport and Greg Gaines at DT or another nose tackle. In other words, there's plenty of needs but DL is not completely bare.

I've then basically tried to have my cake and eat it, and not only fill out areas of need but preempt some future needs and attempt to address them. With that in mind PFF game me the below with loads of trades made (PFF seemed the most realistic but it now seems as fantastical as others so I highly doubt a few of these are available).

38. Andre Carter - DE - I traded back because noone fit. TBH I'm not massively high on what this guy is right now, but the possible upside seems too intriguing to pass up. He isn't ready for a Karlaftis workload year 1, he needs to get stronger and improve against the run, but he can rotate in on obvious passing downs. Year 2 or 3, who knows.

69. Tank Dell - WR - Again I traded back and despite the obvious limitations of being TINY it seemed too good to pass up at this point. He isn't Hardman, he isn't quicker and he's much better latterally. But he CAN do some of what he did and be a gadget guy who offers a little bit more. He gets immediate separation and I've no doubt we'd use him brilliantly.

80. Sydney Brown - S - I think he's a stud. Great athlete, I think he'll have the versatility to thrive even if you have to live with Thornhill-like tackling. He's his natural replacement for me.

88. Nick Herbig - LB - I wanted a coverage LB anticipating Gay perhaps moving on next year, but they just didn't fall. So I took a different route. Some have him as an edge, I honestly don't have a clue what he is aside from being very good. If he offers even average coverage I think he could form the best pass-rush/blitzing LB tandem with Chenal in the league. We now have bend and length, power, and speed rushing the QB.

104. Sam LaPorta- TE - Wasn't intending on a TE but again the value looked too good. This way we improve the TE room as he's a big upgrade on Gray and Fortson, maybe we lighten the load on Kelce a little. Another receiving weapon and YAC monster.

109. Blake Freeland - OT - I don't think he's an NFL tackle year 1, he just needs to get stronger. Given I've not assumed an RT in FA, this leaves us pretty weak at the position, pretty much hoping on Niang or this guy. It might go badly wrong but I think year 2 and beyond he could absolutely be the answer. It seemed worth the risk at this pick.

116. Moro Ojomo - DE - Suspect he goes earlier, again might need a year to season but I think he has huge upside and will be a big upgrade on Saunders and Nnadi.

139. Michael Wilson - WR - Injuries are the concern, otherwise I think he's worth the risk at this point. Senior Bowl releases looked top-notch. I think he's JJSS's replacement as a reliable big body, but with potentially better separation.

168. DeWayne Bridge - RB - Again I was pretty indifferent on RB but seeing him here I jumped.

205. Keaton Mitchell - RB - I think the 1-2-3 punch with Bridge and Pacheco makes this a really dangerous and rounded RB room. People will have to respect the combination of speed, power and shiftiness. I think Mitchell may also be a medium term option to convert to WR.

GloucesterChief · 02-25-2023, 09:45 PM

Traded 31 to Pitt for 32 and their 4th next year. Traded 95 and 168 for 98 and 142 to Cle.

32. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
WR Ohio State

63. Derick Hall
EDGE Auburn

98. Carter Warren
OT Pittsburgh

122. Jaquelin Roy
DT LSU

134. Ricky Stromberg
OC Arkansas

142. Ronnie Hickman
S Ohio State

197. Andrei Iosivas
WR Princeton

217. Malik Cunningham
QB Louisville

219. DeWayne McBride
RB UAB

227. Josh Whyle
TE Cincinnati

251. Lew Nichols III
RB Central Michigan

257. Jeremy Banks
LB Tennessee

2024 PIT 4th

JPH83 · 02-26-2023, 02:51 AM

Had another go assuming JJSS is gone but Hardman stays, so speed at WR is less of a dire need. In this case I've prioritised RT more heavily and left less to chance. Again PFF with loads of trades.

36. Andre Carter, DE
63. Matthew Bergeron, OT
84. Sydney Brown, S
123. Moro Ojomo, DT
133. Michael Wilson, WR
136. Karl Brooks, DE/DT
150. Dorian Williams, LB
160. DeWayne McBride, RB
179. Keaton Mitchell, RB
217. Luke Schoonmaker, TE

kccrow · 02-26-2023, 04:14 AM

I liked this one. Semi-realistic to me.

A couple of guys I took in Bell and Green at WR are probably ones I'll talk about in the WR thread later. I like them both on day 3.

Chris Meck · 02-26-2023, 08:54 AM

I keep getting Foskey and Mazi Smith in the first two rounds on NFL mock draft blitz.

And i keep thinking...yeah, that'd be pretty damned good.

Direckshun · 02-26-2023, 10:18 AM

I’m starting to sour on Foskey.

The Combine will be huge for him.

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02-23-2023, 11:43 AM	#46
JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $930400	People seem a lot more comfortable with limited picks across the DL than I'd expect. Do people feel OK with what we've got there, or that there are other, bigger priorities? I figured I was pretty much indifferent to D and just wanted to stack weapons and protect Mahomes, but now I feel even I'm swinging for DEs and DTs more than most.
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02-23-2023, 09:16 PM	#48
GloucesterChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $-223546	Just one trade in PFN. I don't think they have updated the ranking for prospects yet. Probably be more accurate after the combine and scouting days. 31. Anton Harrison OT Oklahoma KC 63. Kayshon Boutte WR LSU KC 98. Calijah Kancey DT Pittsburgh trade icon KC 122. Nick Hampton EDGE Appalachian State KC 134. Luke Wypler OC Ohio State KC 144. Parker Washington WR Penn State trade icon KC 168. Brenton Cox Jr. EDGE Florida KC 217. Malik Cunningham QB Louisville KC 219. PJ Mustipher DT Penn State KC 227. DeWayne McBride RB UAB KC 251. Michael Jefferson WR Louisiana KC 257. Jeremy Banks LB Tennessee
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02-24-2023, 12:14 AM	#49
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-320960	PFF (5 rounds) 1. Will McDonald IV, EDGE, Iowa St. 2. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati 3. Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota St. 4. Ji'Ayir Brown, S, Penn St. 4. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss 5. Connor Galvin, OT, Baylor
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02-24-2023, 10:22 AM	#50
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $3073447	Did PFN today. It gave me all kinds of unrealistic options like Rice in the 2nd, Battle in the 3rd, Tyler Scott in the 5th and Coburn in the 7th. But you only have one life to live, so I drafted them. 1. DE BJ Ojulari, LSU -- bendy edge rusher 2. WR Rashee Rice, SMU -- mean, competitive X-receiver with gobs of talent 3. S Jordan Battle, Alabama -- day one starter 4. OT Wanya Morris, Oklahoma -- competition at right tackle 4. RB Eric Gray, Oklahoma -- more depth at a sneaky-shallow position 5. WR Tyler Scott, Cincinnati -- future pro bowler 6. TE Will Mallory, Miami 6. CB Tiawan Mullen, Indiana 6. DT Moro Ojomo, Texas 7. LB Anfernee Orji, Vanderbilt 7. DT Keondre Coburn, Texas 7. OG TJ Bass, Oregon The roster: QB: Mahomes, Trubisky, Buechele RB: Pacheco, McKinnon, Gray, Ealy FB: Burton WR: Toney, Rice, Marques-Valdez, Moore, Scott, Watson TE: Kelce, Gray, Bell, Mallory LT: Brown, Niang LG: Thuney, Bass C: Humprey, Reiter RG: Smith, Kinnard RT: Niang vs. Morris DE: Clark, Ojulari DT: Jones, Wharton DT: Ojomo, Coburn DE: Karlaftis, Danna WLB: Gay, Orji MLB: Bolton, Chenal SLB: Chenal, Cochrane CB: Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Mullen S: Reid, Battle, Cook, Bush K: Butker P: Townsend LS: Winchester
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02-24-2023, 09:37 PM	#53
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02-25-2023, 11:05 AM	#54
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $3073447	So, I am an absolute whore for defensive line. I can never get enough. Going EDGE-DT-EDGE with the first three picks would be my dream come true, but it will never happen. Brett Veach probably wrote on his mirror with a bar of soap: "WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP PATRICK MAHOMES TODAY" And there's just no chance he goes two straight days of the NFL Draft without helping Mahomes. That said........ I'd like to know who else was on the board with your 2nd round pick, but Mazi Smith is enticing. Nolan Smith, who I did not initially think fit our defense, is starting to get some run with me lately. I can dig that as a first round pick, but ask me again in a week. Zach Harrison doesn't have a lot of support on this forum, and I'm one of them. I'm just not a fan of the guy, I think he's Tanoh Kpassagnon, and while that's not horrific with a 3rd round pick, I just feel we can get more bang for our buck elsewhere.
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02-25-2023, 03:23 PM	#55
JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $930400	I normally like to approach these making some assumptions about FA. In this case I'm expecting Wylie, Hardman, JJSS and Thornhill all to have priced themselves out of a return, and Clark moved on from. So it's another year of churn and burn. But i'm also assuming moves at DE and DT in FA, something like Arden Key or a 1 year flier on Davenport and Greg Gaines at DT or another nose tackle. In other words, there's plenty of needs but DL is not completely bare. I've then basically tried to have my cake and eat it, and not only fill out areas of need but preempt some future needs and attempt to address them. With that in mind PFF game me the below with loads of trades made (PFF seemed the most realistic but it now seems as fantastical as others so I highly doubt a few of these are available). 38. Andre Carter - DE - I traded back because noone fit. TBH I'm not massively high on what this guy is right now, but the possible upside seems too intriguing to pass up. He isn't ready for a Karlaftis workload year 1, he needs to get stronger and improve against the run, but he can rotate in on obvious passing downs. Year 2 or 3, who knows. 69. Tank Dell - WR - Again I traded back and despite the obvious limitations of being TINY it seemed too good to pass up at this point. He isn't Hardman, he isn't quicker and he's much better latterally. But he CAN do some of what he did and be a gadget guy who offers a little bit more. He gets immediate separation and I've no doubt we'd use him brilliantly. 80. Sydney Brown - S - I think he's a stud. Great athlete, I think he'll have the versatility to thrive even if you have to live with Thornhill-like tackling. He's his natural replacement for me. 88. Nick Herbig - LB - I wanted a coverage LB anticipating Gay perhaps moving on next year, but they just didn't fall. So I took a different route. Some have him as an edge, I honestly don't have a clue what he is aside from being very good. If he offers even average coverage I think he could form the best pass-rush/blitzing LB tandem with Chenal in the league. We now have bend and length, power, and speed rushing the QB. 104. Sam LaPorta- TE - Wasn't intending on a TE but again the value looked too good. This way we improve the TE room as he's a big upgrade on Gray and Fortson, maybe we lighten the load on Kelce a little. Another receiving weapon and YAC monster. 109. Blake Freeland - OT - I don't think he's an NFL tackle year 1, he just needs to get stronger. Given I've not assumed an RT in FA, this leaves us pretty weak at the position, pretty much hoping on Niang or this guy. It might go badly wrong but I think year 2 and beyond he could absolutely be the answer. It seemed worth the risk at this pick. 116. Moro Ojomo - DE - Suspect he goes earlier, again might need a year to season but I think he has huge upside and will be a big upgrade on Saunders and Nnadi. 139. Michael Wilson - WR - Injuries are the concern, otherwise I think he's worth the risk at this point. Senior Bowl releases looked top-notch. I think he's JJSS's replacement as a reliable big body, but with potentially better separation. 168. DeWayne Bridge - RB - Again I was pretty indifferent on RB but seeing him here I jumped. 205. Keaton Mitchell - RB - I think the 1-2-3 punch with Bridge and Pacheco makes this a really dangerous and rounded RB room. People will have to respect the combination of speed, power and shiftiness. I think Mitchell may also be a medium term option to convert to WR.
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02-25-2023, 09:45 PM	#56
GloucesterChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $-223546	Traded 31 to Pitt for 32 and their 4th next year. Traded 95 and 168 for 98 and 142 to Cle. 32. Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR Ohio State 63. Derick Hall EDGE Auburn 98. Carter Warren OT Pittsburgh 122. Jaquelin Roy DT LSU 134. Ricky Stromberg OC Arkansas 142. Ronnie Hickman S Ohio State 197. Andrei Iosivas WR Princeton 217. Malik Cunningham QB Louisville 219. DeWayne McBride RB UAB 227. Josh Whyle TE Cincinnati 251. Lew Nichols III RB Central Michigan 257. Jeremy Banks LB Tennessee 2024 PIT 4th
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02-26-2023, 02:51 AM	#57
JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $930400	Had another go assuming JJSS is gone but Hardman stays, so speed at WR is less of a dire need. In this case I've prioritised RT more heavily and left less to chance. Again PFF with loads of trades. 36. Andre Carter, DE 63. Matthew Bergeron, OT 84. Sydney Brown, S 123. Moro Ojomo, DT 133. Michael Wilson, WR 136. Karl Brooks, DE/DT 150. Dorian Williams, LB 160. DeWayne McBride, RB 179. Keaton Mitchell, RB 217. Luke Schoonmaker, TE
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02-26-2023, 04:14 AM	#58
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $86403	I liked this one. Semi-realistic to me. A couple of guys I took in Bell and Green at WR are probably ones I'll talk about in the WR thread later. I like them both on day 3. Attached Thumbnails
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02-26-2023, 08:54 AM	#59
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $334910	I keep getting Foskey and Mazi Smith in the first two rounds on NFL mock draft blitz. And i keep thinking...yeah, that'd be pretty damned good.
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02-26-2023, 10:18 AM	#60
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $3073447	I’m starting to sour on Foskey. The Combine will be huge for him.
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