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Old 01-26-2023, 08:09 PM  
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Did Dave Toub get himself fired today?
He told the media basically that Veach ****ed up cutting Lammons cause he was in the game plan. Basically complaining to the media about it..while having a god awful year.
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:16 PM   #46
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Yeah, OP’s version of it not remotely reality.

He said Veach is a smart guy who always has a plan. And he had a plan here and this is unfortunately how it worked out.

No part of this is bitching about Veach.
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:25 PM   #47
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The hearing day for the Kamara assault case was finally set up the same day we released him. Doubt it was a coincidence.

So guilty until proven one or the other
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:35 PM   #48
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Yeah, OP’s version of it not remotely reality.

He said Veach is a smart guy who always has a plan. And he had a plan here and this is unfortunately how it worked out.

No part of this is bitching about Veach.
You mean the OP who's 1 of the biggest ref conspiracy guys is dishonest? No way!
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:35 PM   #49
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Smoke, no Fire here. Other, more important stuff will tip this game.

Though, I am leaning toward Toub is an old idiot who should be replaced by someone younger. Ried will not fire until the empire falls.
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:35 PM   #50
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Toub still knows more about special teams than everyone on CP combined. It’s not like he forgot. Players still have to make plays.
Sure.

Andy Reid knows more about football than all but a handful of people in history.

He'd still run out of runway in Philly and it was time for them to make a change.

Smart or not, Toub has done an AWFUL job this year and his response to this is to be defiant and intransigent. That's usually a pretty good sign that all parties would be better off elsewhere.
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:36 PM   #51
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So guilty until proven one or the other
I mean, there's video evidence
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:48 PM   #52
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The hearing day for the Kamara assault case was finally set up the same day we released him. Doubt it was a coincidence.
They cut him because they figured they could bring him back on if Fortson or Hardman couldn't go.

They had known about the kamara case for months. Announcing a trial date wouldn't change anything
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:51 PM   #53
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:53 PM   #54
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Lammons was a ST's ace. Seeing him get cut was a real surprise.
There had to be other players to cut right?
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I mean, there's video evidence

I hadn't even heard about it until this week. Did the video just hit the public this week?
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:57 PM   #56
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Smart or not, Toub has done an AWFUL job this year and his response to this is to be defiant and intransigent. That's usually a pretty good sign that all parties would be better off elsewhere.
Really? What about his response could be characterized as such?
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Old 01-26-2023, 10:19 PM   #58
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He absolutely said nothing even remotely close to that Mecca. He said "It happens, you know Veach had a plan, you know he had a plan, um you know he always had a plan you know he always has a plan he's a smart guy it just didn't work out I guess uh uh you know unfortunately for lammons you know because now he's not gonna be able to play so um it's just the way it goes uh you know obviously he was a good player for us and you know for three years did a lot for us and want to thank him for that I'm going to miss him you know no question but you know the future is still still good for him"

We get it Mecca you don't like him, but you don't need to post outright lies.
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i swear to god if the guy taking lammons place blows coverage and we lose because of a kick return, you can ****ing fire VEACH
Wasn't Lammons 20 yards behind the Jaguars returner twice last week?
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He absolutely said nothing even remotely close to that Mecca. He said "It happens, you know Veach had a plan, you know he had a plan, um you know he always had a plan you know he always has a plan he's a smart guy it just didn't work out I guess uh uh you know unfortunately for lammons you know because now he's not gonna be able to play so um it's just the way it goes uh you know obviously he was a good player for us and you know for three years did a lot for us and want to thank him for that I'm going to miss him you know no question but you know the future is still still good for him"

We get it Mecca you don't like him, but you don't need to post outright lies.
I saw the actual presser on NFL roku channel and thread headline and opening post are way off.

It was a dick move for the Bengals and it will catch up to them.
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