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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:51 AM   #5836
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From the guy who has the school that is literally begging its fans to watch them come play.
And yet I'm not acting like a victim.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:51 AM   #5837
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Not sure how much sway the bowls will have given the recent expose on how "uncharitable" they have been with bowl revenue. Their actions may prove to be the black eye that pushes the schools toward an organized tournament system.
meh, people don't care. The Fiesta Bowl scandal is forgotten in the mind of 99% of the public.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:53 AM   #5838
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and that changes the fact he is an MU homer because?
Uh...he doesn't count them as his 'home' university.

He's openly and obviously playing Devil's advocate. He's not being a 'homer' by any definition; he's being a KC sports radio personality that has a responsibility to create ratings via offering a counterpoint. KK then seizes on a stated 'devils advocate' position as "Missouri fans are saying"...

You really don't understand how obviously bitter that appears?
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:53 AM   #5839
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And yet I'm not acting like a victim.
Ah yes, ku fans have no problem with blatant lies about their fans or university. You guys are so above it all.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:54 AM   #5840
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Petro is saying what I have been thinking. The withdrwal goes down on Friday. Slive announces the approval on Monday. The SEC gets a week's worth of free promotion on the Big XII's dime leading up to the Tigers\Aggies game.
Dear Mizzou: Please don't do anything dumb like lose by 50 to the Cowboys and somehow !@#$ this up.

I can see this happening.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:54 AM   #5841
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And yet I'm not acting like a victim.
Missouri is moving on to a tougher conference and other people are telling us we shouldn't because"omgz it will be hard" but yea...we have the victim mentality.

Nothing says victim mentality by taking actions to remove yourself from a situation you are not a fan of.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:55 AM   #5842
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I can't believe how many of you hate yourselves enough to listen to sports talk radio. Any of it.
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and the other 364 days of the year Harry is also defending lil miss mizzou's honor?
That would be make-believe, Chief.

Especially since you just claimed that you haven't listened to KK in a year and that's the only show he plays an active role on (and is often critical of the school).

Go ahead and tip-toe away from this one, you're showing your ass right now.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:56 AM   #5844
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meh, people don't care. The Fiesta Bowl scandal is forgotten in the mind of 99% of the public.
My point is that the bowls are less likely to have success catering to the masses or even politicians based on the recent bad press. The expose on Outside the Lines or Real Sports basically showed that much more of the revenue goes to bowl employees instead of charity than is led to believe.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:56 AM   #5845
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Poor little MU.

Saul Good, your victim mentality is exhausting.
Victim? Mizzou wanted a better lot in life, so they got off their asses and did something about it. That's not playing the victim. That's ambition.

Kietzman is the one trying to start a protest of the Mizzou BOR meeting. THAT is a bunch of KSU and KU pussies acting like victims.
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This whole thread has become just a big WTF.
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Uh...he doesn't count them as his 'home' university.

He's openly and obviously playing Devil's advocate. He's not being a 'homer' by any definition; he's being a KC sports radio personality that has a responsibility to create ratings via offering a counterpoint. KK then seizes on a stated 'devils advocate' position as "Missouri fans are saying"...

You really don't understand how obviously bitter that appears?
Dude, Jack Harry is as biased as they come. I don't know why you're focusing on the re-alignment issues, he's been doing his thing for many, many years. It's a well known fact that he's a huge MU fan and hates Kansas with a passion. He makes a complete fool of himself so it's a win/win for both fanbases.
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Kietzman is the one trying to start a protest of the Mizzou BOR meeting. THAT is a bunch of KSU and KU pussies acting like victims.
Oh wow is this true?
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Dude, Jack Harry is as biased as they come. I don't know why you're focusing on the re-alignment issues, he's been doing his thing for many, many years. It's a well known fact that he's a huge MU fan and hates Kansas with a passion. He makes a complete fool of himself so it's a win/win for both fanbases.
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