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[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Would we hear more about it?

Yes, but that doesn't mean the drama and controversy from both sides would happen though.

It's ok to acknowledge that Elway obviously has not handled this the right way. I promise.

It's ok to acknowledge that you don't like the broncos as a basis for most of this.

I'd imagine it's more public than he'd like, but July 12 when they sit down to negotiate together and a deal is done the 15th, it won't matter

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by vailpass

There is no better GM in football than Elway over the last 5 years. But you knew that.

Yea ok. I guess it's just a coincidence he's having his worst offseason yet after Peyton retires.

Getting an elite QB in FA, and later getting Talib/Ware/Ward in FA to come win a SB was great, but it certainly doesn't make him the best GM in football. The best GM's in football build through the draft. Let's see if Elway can do that now.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Yep, Dorsey did a fantastic job getting Eric Berry locked up... wait.

is Eric Berry creating drama by sending messages to Dorsey through posts on Instagram?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by vailpass

There is no better GM in football than Elway over the last 5 years. But you knew that.

Incorrect. Peyton Manning would make literally any GM look good. Peyton Manning sold the key free agents the Donks have had to come there, not Elway.

I'd argue Dorsey has been a FAR better GM when you look at what he was dealing with in trying to overhaul a roster that went 2-14 the year before his arrival.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Incorrect. Peyton Manning would make literally any GM look good. Peyton Manning sold the key free agents the Donks have had to come there, not Elway.

I'd argue Dorsey has been a FAR better GM when you look at what he was dealing with in trying to overhaul a roster that went 2-14 the year before his arrival.

Shhh you're being too sensible.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Incorrect. Peyton Manning would make literally any GM look good. Peyton Manning sold the key free agents the Donks have had to come there, not Elway.

I'd argue Dorsey has been a FAR better GM when you look at what he was dealing with in trying to overhaul a roster that went 2-14 the year before his arrival.

...Elway’s vision and aggressive approach toward free agency and the NFL Draft have guided the Broncos’ unprecedented progress in his four seasons as the club’s lead football executive. Inheriting a Broncos team that finished 4-12 in 2010, Elway has overseen a drastic turnaround in which Denver has tied for the second-most overall wins (49) in the NFL since 2011 while capturing four consecutive AFC West Division titles for the first time in team history. As the next step toward bringing a World Championship back to Denver, Elway in 2015 hired Head Coach Gary Kubiak, a highly regarded and accomplished coach who has been a part of three Super Bowl-winning staffs.

Off the field, Elway has spearheaded several innovative efforts to achieve and sustain success for the football team. In 2011, the Broncos became the first NFL team to hire four full-time strength and conditioning coaches to implement adaptive training regimens for players. The team also offers a full-service kitchen and nutrition staff to optimize player performance through customized diet plans.

The Broncos under Elway have embraced various methods of football analytics as a tool to sup- port evaluations and situational decisions made by the personnel staff and coaches. Additionally, the team has been at the forefront of equipment testing and technology to maximize the health, safety and performance of its players.

Complementing the Broncos’ investment in support and infrastructure, the organization has been among the NFL’s most active clubs in improving its roster under Elway, utilizing the NFL Draft, free agency, trades and waiver acquisitions to assemble a championship-caliber team.

During his four seasons as an executive, Elway has signed or extended the contracts of 14 players who have combined for 20 Pro Bowl selections with the Broncos. He is the only general manager in the NFL during that span who has acquired future Pro Bowl players through the NFL Draft, street free agency, unrestricted free agency and college free agency.

Signed by Elway as a street free agent in 2012, quarterback Peyton Manning was named NFL Comeback Player of the Year in his first season with the Broncos before earning his unprecedented fifth NFL Most Valuable Player Award from the Associated Press in 2013. Elway’s 2014 free agent class—Emmanuel Sanders, Aqib Talib, T.J. Ward and DeMarcus Ware— made the Broncos just the second team in league history (Carolina, 1996) to sign four players who made the Pro Bowl in their first year with the team. In all, Denver’s 11 Pro Bowl selections in 2014 represented the most in the NFL and set a team record.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/st...e-bf841f14cf89

You can keep Dorsey, he's fine. I'll go with Elway.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by vailpass

...Elway’s vision and aggressive approach toward free agency and the NFL Draft have guided the Broncos’ unprecedented progress in his four seasons as the club’s lead football executive. Inheriting a Broncos team that finished 4-12 in 2010, Elway has overseen a drastic turnaround in which Denver has tied for the second-most overall wins (49) in the NFL since 2011 while capturing four consecutive AFC West Division titles for the first time in team history. As the next step toward bringing a World Championship back to Denver, Elway in 2015 hired Head Coach Gary Kubiak, a highly regarded and accomplished coach who has been a part of three Super Bowl-winning staffs.

Off the field, Elway has spearheaded several innovative efforts to achieve and sustain success for the football team. In 2011, the Broncos became the first NFL team to hire four full-time strength and conditioning coaches to implement adaptive training regimens for players. The team also offers a full-service kitchen and nutrition staff to optimize player performance through customized diet plans.

The Broncos under Elway have embraced various methods of football analytics as a tool to sup- port evaluations and situational decisions made by the personnel staff and coaches. Additionally, the team has been at the forefront of equipment testing and technology to maximize the health, safety and performance of its players.

Complementing the Broncos’ investment in support and infrastructure, the organization has been among the NFL’s most active clubs in improving its roster under Elway, utilizing the NFL Draft, free agency, trades and waiver acquisitions to assemble a championship-caliber team.

During his four seasons as an executive, Elway has signed or extended the contracts of 14 players who have combined for 20 Pro Bowl selections with the Broncos. He is the only general manager in the NFL during that span who has acquired future Pro Bowl players through the NFL Draft, street free agency, unrestricted free agency and college free agency.

Signed by Elway as a street free agent in 2012, quarterback Peyton Manning was named NFL Comeback Player of the Year in his first season with the Broncos before earning his unprecedented fifth NFL Most Valuable Player Award from the Associated Press in 2013. Elway’s 2014 free agent class—Emmanuel Sanders, Aqib Talib, T.J. Ward and DeMarcus Ware— made the Broncos just the second team in league history (Carolina, 1996) to sign four players who made the Pro Bowl in their first year with the team. In all, Denver’s 11 Pro Bowl selections in 2014 represented the most in the NFL and set a team record.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/st...e-bf841f14cf89

You can keep Dorsey, he's fine. I'll go with Elway.

Posts an bio from the Broncos official site to back up his opinion, instead of actually having a rebuttal to a very logical response.

[Bowser]

wordswordswords

Peyton Manning. He was the best recruiting tool the Broncos have ever seen. Do you think DeMarcus Ware, Aqib Talib or Emmanuel Sanders come to Denver if Mark Sanchez of Tebow was your cube in 2012 instead of Peyton? Come on. Listen, credit to Elway for getting Peyton in and signing him, but after that he was on cruise control and let the business run itself.

[Bowser]

I bet I can go back and find an equally impressive fluff piece on Scott Pioli that the Chiefs wrote about him back then, lol.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Bowser

wordswordswords

Peyton Manning. He was the best recruiting tool the Broncos have ever seen. Do you think DeMarcus Ware, Aqib Talib or Emmanuel Sanders come to Denver if Mark Sanchez of Tebow was your cube in 2012 instead of Peyton? Come on. Listen, credit to Elway for getting Peyton in and signing him, but after that he was on cruise control and let the business run itself.

Grigson is the worst GM in football (and one of the worst ever), but having Andrew Luck fall into his lap was enough to make his team a playoff contender year in and year out.

It's amazing how people underestimate how much easier the job is when you have an all-time great QB fall into your lap like Peyton.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Bowser

wordswordswords

Peyton Manning. He was the best recruiting tool the Broncos have ever seen. Do you think DeMarcus Ware, Aqib Talib or Emmanuel Sanders come to Denver if Mark Sanchez of Tebow was your cube in 2012 instead of Peyton? Come on. Listen, credit to Elway for getting Peyton in and signing him, but after that he was on cruise control and let the business run itself.

Getting Manning wasn't really a "great" achievement. It was his golf buddy and he just happened to be available. It's not like he found an unknown and hit a home run in the draft.

It's annoying hearing Broncos fans say "Paxton Lynch is gonna be a franchise QB bc Elway knows QB's" when he hasn't even played a down. What's hilarious is these same fans were like knowmo last year and said the same shit about Elway's drafted messiah. Now that he's in Houston he suddenly sucks ass.

[O.city]

So manning brought all these free agents to denver, I forget, who brought manning to denver?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by O.city

So manning brought all these free agents to denver, I forget, who brought manning to denver?

I'll take "People That Just Skim Posts" for $1000, Alex

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Getting Manning wasn't really a "great" achievement. It was his golf buddy and he just happened to be available. It's not like he found an unknown and hit a home run in the draft.

It's annoying hearing Broncos fans say "Paxton Lynch is gonna be a franchise QB bc Elway knows QB's" when he hasn't even played a down. What's hilarious is these same fans were like knowmo last year and said the same shit about Elway's drafted messiah. Now that he's in Houston he suddenly sucks ass.

"Brock Osweiller is going to be the best quarterback from his class" /Knowmo

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Bowser

wordswordswords

Peyton Manning. He was the best recruiting tool the Broncos have ever seen. Do you think DeMarcus Ware, Aqib Talib or Emmanuel Sanders come to Denver if Mark Sanchez of Tebow was your cube in 2012 instead of Peyton? Come on. Listen, credit to Elway for getting Peyton in and signing him, but after that he was on cruise control and let the business run itself.

Manning was the reason we were able to bring in Wes Welker and Emmanuel Sanders but Ware, Talib, and Ward came to Denver because we had cap space to burn and we offered them big money.