BURROWHEAD: Bengals talking a lot of sh1ttttt

[NIUhuskies]

I love that are doing this. Probably not smart to poke the bear

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— ZIM (@zimwhodey) January 24, 2023

Willie just posted this one on his story

I just feel like everyone is going to spend all week talking about Mahomes' ankle or Burrow being a Demigod or Chase against this young secondary or Lou Anarumo being a psychopath...and then in the end it's just going to Samaje Perine bludgeoning Bolton and Gay to death.

— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) January 23, 2023

AU_wde_2 posted [Willie Gay on IG] Taking some bulletin board material from Brett Kollmann https://t.co/NclopGIsUv https://t.co/gLVGqLP4N2

— r/KansasCityChiefs (@ChiefsOnReddit) January 24, 2023

I appreciate a good troll job….hats off to Cincinnati…definitely the only time I’m saying it. #ArrowheadInvitational #burrowhead #ChiefsKingdom #whodey #bengals pic.twitter.com/SH2tT9z4Or

— Bean (@JoeyFakaBean) January 24, 2023

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Bill Walsh was a young, innovative coach and Paul Brown was old school. He believed in paying your dues. Even though Walsh would have been the obvious choice to take over for Brown when he retired, Brown went with Tiger Johnson because he had been with them longer and he was more in tune with Brown on philosophy and demeanor and all that.

Walsh felt snubbed and after the decision, decided to take his talents elswhere (Stanford, i think?) and Brown felt betrayed so when Walsh was trying to get back in the league, Brown blackballed him and tried to get other owners to not hire him. He was a HoF coach but he was a petty prick.

Weird thing is...Wikipedia says Tiger Johnson and Bill Walsh both started coaching with the Bengals in 1968. Is that not accurate? It looks like the dudes were there for the exact same amount of time heading into Paul Brown's retirement. It also looks like Bill Walsh was a far more experienced coach than Tiger Johnson before 1968.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Ah, seems like a good place to post this. Enjoy.

They're not living off beating the Chiefs but they're not good. Defense is horrid most times.

Right before the opening game, with the Tee "injury" and the Ja'Marr drama it felt like there was this black cloud over the team and they've done nothing to change that. Soft, bad defense, bad play calling and an overinflated ego.

The annoying thing is, the rest of the AFC won't pull away so the Bengals are still in contention for the playoffs, having to face the teams directly in front of them.

We'll see if they have the balls and ability to get it turned around or if they're just soft bitches that talk too much.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

They're where the Cowboys were 4-5 years ago. The core of the team isn't going to get better - just more expensive.

I've said for years "Man, what's Dallas's plan here?" because Jerry just kept bringing the same guys back and paying them more until he couldn't anymore and the team finally collapsed.

So in this regard, Mike Brown being cheap could've been useful in that they could've traded Higgins and tried to reload a bit around a Burrow/Chase core. But he decided instead to push his chips in for one last run.

And make no mistake, this is it. They're not going to have a more talented roster next year than they have this year. All they can really hope for us Mims figuring things out and All/Burton becoming genuine threats. Then they can take the Higgins 'found' money and use it on the OL. But the defense is still declining so it's hard to see them truly improving. It just doesn't seem like Myles Murphy and Kris Jenkins are suddenly going to figure things out.

Mims and All look good. Burton can't seem to get on the field for whatever reason but when they go his way, he usually produces.

They totally ****ed up the Higgins sitch and the defense is really far away from being competitive. Letting Bates and Reader walk were killers. They brought back Bell, but he looks done. Geno Stone was smoke and mirrors, Battle looks good but they won't give him significant snaps and their Dline can't get pressure other than Hendrickson. Wilson and Pratt are always out of position and are way overrated by PFF and the like. IDL might turn out ok with the rooks but Murphy looks like a bust, along with Ossai.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's kinda where I keep getting back to -- is Zac Taylor a really good OC masquerading as a HC?

No, he's a decent HC masquerading as an OC. He can help build it and lead it but he's not a good playcaller.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Weird thing is...Wikipedia says Tiger Johnson and Bill Walsh both started coaching with the Bengals in 1968. Is that not accurate? It looks like the dudes were there for the exact same amount of time heading into Paul Brown's retirement. It also looks like Bill Walsh was a far more experienced coach than Tiger Johnson before 1968.

It could be. I'm going off memory. Tiger Johnson fit the mold of what Brown thought a coach should look and act like. Brown didn't butt heads with Johnson but he did with Walsh.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

They're not living off beating the Chiefs but they're not good. Defense is horrid most times.

Right before the opening game, with the Tee "injury" and the Ja'Marr drama it felt like there was this black cloud over the team and they've done nothing to change that. Soft, bad defense, bad play calling and an overinflated ego.

The annoying thing is, the rest of the AFC won't pull away so the Bengals are still in contention for the playoffs, having to face the teams directly in front of them.

We'll see if they have the balls and ability to get it turned around or if they're just soft bitches that talk too much.

Sure, Jan.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

They're not living off beating the Chiefs but they're not good. Defense is horrid most times.

Right before the opening game, with the Tee "injury" and the Ja'Marr drama it felt like there was this black cloud over the team and they've done nothing to change that. Soft, bad defense, bad play calling and an overinflated ego.

The annoying thing is, the rest of the AFC won't pull away so the Bengals are still in contention for the playoffs, having to face the teams directly in front of them.

We'll see if they have the balls and ability to get it turned around or if they're just soft bitches that talk too much.

I don't know if he meant it this way but I think it's more that their reputation in the media and amongst like the casual fan is built on beating the Chiefs. They haven't had as much recent success but they were the only team that could beat us with any consistency and Burrow is the only QB currently playing to have beaten Mahomes in the playoffs so I think that's bought them a lot of leeway with the media.

I think that the Bengals are a one dimensional team but that one dimension happens to be really really good. They could still eek out that 7th playoff spot, I don't believe in the broncos and I don't think like Indy gets it.

I get the impression that you think a WC loss would be like an unsuccessful season and if I were a bengals fan I'd agree

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

I don't know if he meant it this way but I think it's more that their reputation in the media and amongst like the casual fan is built on beating the Chiefs. They haven't had as much recent success but they were the only team that could beat us with any consistency and Burrow is the only QB currently playing to have beaten Mahomes in the playoffs so I think that's bought them a lot of leeway with the media.

I think that the Bengals are a one dimensional team but that one dimension happens to be really really good. They could still eek out that 7th playoff spot, I don't believe in the broncos and I don't think like Indy gets it.

I get the impression that you think a WC loss would be like an unsuccessful season and if I were a bengals fan I'd agree

Yep to all of it.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

That fluke little AFCC 2nd half against the Chiefs is the high point of their franchises existence. Think about it a second. It's true.

[Red Dawg]

They had a real squad but you have to start paying big money a some point and you make cuts. Mixing and Boyd were important. They have cut some defense as well. Team is not the same. Joe needed that max talent and now he doesn't have it.

[Red Dawg]

They had an SB in their reach and blew it. Defense gave up the lead and Joe failed.

[Bengal Billy]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

That fluke little AFCC 2nd half against the Chiefs is the high point of their franchises existence. Think about it a second. It's true.

Lol. Yeah okay. I'm old enough to remember 70s and 80s though.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by O.city

They're basically in the spot where....well they need a "Chiefs 2022 draft" of McDuffie and such.

It's just hard.

They're basically going thru what the NFL wants cycle wise.

The only asset they have that can get a haul needed to do what KC did is Chase. I genuinely don’t see anyone else on that roster who could do that (not counting Burrow of course). I believe Trey is gone after this year.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Mims and All look good. Burton can't seem to get on the field for whatever reason but when they go his way, he usually produces.

They totally ****ed up the Higgins sitch and the defense is really far away from being competitive. Letting Bates and Reader walk were killers. They brought back Bell, but he looks done. Geno Stone was smoke and mirrors, Battle looks good but they won't give him significant snaps and their Dline can't get pressure other than Hendrickson. Wilson and Pratt are always out of position and are way overrated by PFF and the like. IDL might turn out ok with the rooks but Murphy looks like a bust, along with Ossai.

Wasn’t Ossai pretty good as a rookie? I swear that I remember hearing great things about him prior to the infamous RTP. If so has he regressed? I know he was injured on that play so I am curious if that’s part of why he’s starting to look like a bust.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Bengal Billy

Lol. Yeah okay. I'm old enough to remember 70s and 80s though.

I agree. Those 2 SBs that the Bengals blew against the 49ers were HUGE disappointments. Bengals should have won both of them. I think the expectations for those 2 teams were higher than the team that beat us a couple years ago.