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[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Just watch the draft and listen to how the analysts gush over any offensive player the Chiefs draft.

• Mecole Hardman was supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill.
  
• CEH should be "the top pick in fantasy drafts this year, he's the next Brian Westbrook!"
  
• Sky Moore was the next Steve Smith and would be one of, if not the best rookie WR's.

And on the Chiefs OL, everyone in the media will tell you that the Chiefs have the best OL football, and they go on and on about how great Thuney, Creed, OBJ and Smith are. If they're so great, why do the Chiefs struggle so much at converting first downs running the football on 3rd/4th and 1?

Come on dude. It's all about the QB. You know this. Stop playing dumb. The Chiefs have an elite offensive system led by an elite QB and coaching staff. If you're a nobody but work within that system, people are going to credit you with having a part (however small) in making that system work.

You yourself experienced that kind of bump from having a (perceived) elite QB who would create his own system. Your WRs are a bucket of empty dreams and unfulfilled promise, but once you got a QB that everybody assumed would be good, all of a sudden you got every jackass talking about how the Broncos have "weapons." All of a sudden Jerry Jeudy was talked up as this true #1 WR, Tim Patrick was no longer just some schlub (even though he is) and Albert O had all this talent and now a QB was going to bring it out of him to become the next great TE.

It totally happened. Instantly. We all had to listen to it as Chiefs fans. Why? Because people assumed Russ was still great.

Stop hiring idiots, losers, reeruns, and assholes in your front office and coaching staff, get a real QB, and you, too, can be ogled on draft day year after year.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Just watch the draft and listen to how the analysts gush over any offensive player the Chiefs draft.

• Mecole Hardman was supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill.
  
• CEH should be "the top pick in fantasy drafts this year, he's the next Brian Westbrook!"
  
• Sky Moore was the next Steve Smith and would be one of, if not the best rookie WR's.

And on the Chiefs OL, everyone in the media will tell you that the Chiefs have the best OL football, and they go on and on about how great Thuney, Creed, OBJ and Smith are. If they're so great, why do the Chiefs struggle so much at converting first downs running the football on 3rd/4th and 1?

Spoken like an obsessed one.

Those examples aren’t exaggeration or anything. Who have draft analysts not gushed over?

I think the Chiefs’ tackles have taken plenty of media criticism. But in spite of their struggles at times, KC’s OL finished with the best pass block win rate by a considerable margin, and #4 in run block win rate.

Now how’d that awesome Denver defense perform down the stretch?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Come on dude. It's all about the QB. You know this. Stop playing dumb. The Chiefs have an elite offensive system led by an elite QB and coaching staff. If you're a nobody but work within that system, people are going to credit you with having a part (however small) in making that system work.

You yourself experienced that kind of bump from having a (perceived) elite QB who would create his own system. Your WRs are a bucket of empty dreams and unfulfilled promise, but once you got a QB that everybody assumed would be good, all of a sudden you got every jackass talking about how the Broncos have "weapons." All of a sudden Jerry Jeudy was talked up as this true #1 WR, Tim Patrick was no longer just some schlub (even though he is) and Albert O had all this talent and now a QB was going to bring it out of him to become the next great TE.

It totally happened. Instantly. We all had to listen to it as Chiefs fans. Why? Because people assumed Russ was still great.

Stop hiring idiots, losers, reeruns, and assholes in your front office and coaching staff, get a real QB, and you, too, can be ogled on draft day year after year.

That’s what’s hilarious about this…

Someone in the media literally said that Wilson was walking into one of the best situations a QB has ever been in….and it turned out to be the least productive offense in the NFL.

But dude wants to talk about how overrated KC’s OL is.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Now how’d that awesome Denver defense perform down the stretch?

Our best rush package had Chubb, Gregory and Browning on the field all at the same time. After Gregory went down we did some great things with Chubb, Browning and Bonitto. Then, Chubb got traded, Browning got hurt, Bonitto couldn't hold up as an every down player, Dre'Mont Jones missed the last 4 games and D.J. Jones missed the last two.

The waves of rushers we could throw at people made us dangerous. If you take away the frontline guys, it's not going to be the same. Especially with Browning playing the position for the first time and Bonitto being a rookie.

The plus side with all of these injuries is our young guys got a shit ton of reps and will be better for it next year.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Just watch the draft and listen to how the analysts gush over any offensive player the Chiefs draft.

• Mecole Hardman was supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill.
  
• CEH should be "the top pick in fantasy drafts this year, he's the next Brian Westbrook!"
  
• Sky Moore was the next Steve Smith and would be one of, if not the best rookie WR's.

And on the Chiefs OL, everyone in the media will tell you that the Chiefs have the best OL football, and they go on and on about how great Thuney, Creed, OBJ and Smith are. If they're so great, why do the Chiefs struggle so much at converting first downs running the football on 3rd/4th and 1?

YOU have gushed over your GM.
YOU have gushed over Hackett.
YOU gushed over fatrus and continue to do so.

Outside of those, you've gushed over every other horrible to mediocre player on your roster. Yet, you're complaining about someone else gushing? Seriously?

[Rainbarrel]

Russell Wilson is the Rat mojo bill

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Our best rush package had Chubb, Gregory and Browning on the field all at the same time. After Gregory went down we did some great things with Chubb, Browning and Bonitto. Then, Chubb got traded, Browning got hurt, Bonitto couldn't hold up as an every down player, Dre'Mont Jones missed the last 4 games and D.J. Jones missed the last two.

The waves of rushers we could throw at people made us dangerous. If you take away the frontline guys, it's not going to be the same. Especially with Browning playing the position for the first time and Bonitto being a rookie.

The plus side with all of these injuries is our young guys got a shit ton of reps and will be better for it next year.

It's ALWAYS "next year" with Denver. Yet, when next year comes, they ALWAYS suck. AmIwrong?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

The waves of rushers we could throw at people made us dangerous.

Made your team “dangerous” to do what?

Not make the playoffs for EIGHT straight seasons?

To lose 15 straight to the Chiefs?

To become the laughingstock of the league?

[PHOG]

Comedy gold.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Just watch the draft and listen to how the analysts gush over any offensive player the Chiefs draft.

• Mecole Hardman was supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill.
  
• CEH should be "the top pick in fantasy drafts this year, he's the next Brian Westbrook!"
  
• Sky Moore was the next Steve Smith and would be one of, if not the best rookie WR's.

And on the Chiefs OL, everyone in the media will tell you that the Chiefs have the best OL football, and they go on and on about how great Thuney, Creed, OBJ and Smith are. If they're so great, why do the Chiefs struggle so much at converting first downs running the football on 3rd/4th and 1?

You are now saying this because the media was gushing over draft selections? I listed facts from this year and last, not draft opinions. Refute that.

Also notice I only mentioned the interior OLine, not our Ts as essentially everyone knows they are bad. Same with Clark and our interior DLine outside of Jones.

Your claim was the media gushing over every Chiefs player is blatantly false. No different than your claims that Denver has a “loaded” Top 5 roster, Russ was a better choice than the back to back league MVP, only Mahomes, Kelce, and Jones would start for Denver, every pick Denver gets is a future HOF, etc…..

You always have excuses for why Denver perpetually finishes dead last in the AFCW except for the most obvious one which is that they are not a good football team.

KC is the gold standard right now in the NFL regardless of what you say and think. It’s also why they are now sitting at a humiliating (for Broncos fans at least) 15 game win streak over Denver. KC gets rid of Hill and gets better. Denver trades away the little talent they have and doesn’t improve. Your GM is so bad that if I were a Broncos fan I would think he was a plant put there to destroy your team. He is flat out awful and the performance on the field this year validates that.

Perhaps you should just go back to posting Twitter comments and let others do the thinking for you.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Our best rush package had Chubb, Gregory and Browning on the field all at the same time. After Gregory went down we did some great things with Chubb, Browning and Bonitto. Then, Chubb got traded, Browning got hurt, Bonitto couldn't hold up as an every down player, Dre'Mont Jones missed the last 4 games and D.J. Jones missed the last two.

The waves of rushers we could throw at people made us dangerous. If you take away the frontline guys, it's not going to be the same. Especially with Browning playing the position for the first time and Bonitto being a rookie.

The plus side with all of these injuries is our young guys got a shit ton of reps and will be better for it next year.

Gregory played what five games this year? While Denver is getting laughed at for the Wilson trade and contract and rightfully so not enough attention has been paid to the Gregory contract. That is an unmitigated disaster this year and one of the worst FA signings by any team.

Who did you get for Von? Nick Bonito who finished with a whopping 14 tackles and 1.5 sacks? Sure your young guys got lots of experience yet that means nothing if they aren’t good, which they aren’t. There are only two Broncos, maybe 3 that would start in KC, Surtain, Jeudy, and Simmons.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Imagine thinking losing turds like Gregory, Bonito...etc had any effect on your record.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Our best rush package had Chubb, Gregory and Browning on the field all at the same time. After Gregory went down we did some great things with Chubb, Browning and Bonitto. Then, Chubb got traded, Browning got hurt, Bonitto couldn't hold up as an every down player, Dre'Mont Jones missed the last 4 games and D.J. Jones missed the last two.

The waves of rushers we could throw at people made us dangerous. If you take away the frontline guys, it's not going to be the same. Especially with Browning playing the position for the first time and Bonitto being a rookie.

The plus side with all of these injuries is our young guys got a shit ton of reps and will be better for it next year.

KC's was the only elite offense Denver faced all year. I'd say that was a big factor in their stats, especially early on. Denver's D built their reputation by containing bottom 10 offenses.

Gregory can't be relied upon to play more than a handful of games per year. Which the savvy general should have considered before signing him. Probably not the wisest move to make him one of your 5 highest-paid players.

It's hard to imagine that you could still be in full support of Paton. Did it impress you that much that he found a solid corner with the 9th pick? Historically, he only had about a 90% chance of doing so.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Our best rush package had Chubb, Gregory and Browning on the field all at the same time. After Gregory went down we did some great things with Chubb, Browning and Bonitto. Then, Chubb got traded, Browning got hurt, Bonitto couldn't hold up as an every down player, Dre'Mont Jones missed the last 4 games and D.J. Jones missed the last two.

The waves of rushers we could throw at people made us dangerous. If you take away the frontline guys, it's not going to be the same. Especially with Browning playing the position for the first time and Bonitto being a rookie.

The plus side with all of these injuries is our young guys got a shit ton of reps and will be better for it next year.

Everyone including me told you Gregory was a bad signing bc he was a broke dick who had a career high 6 sacks at age 29. Everyone including me also told you that Bonitto was a not an every down player and shockingly you finally come to that realization a year later.

Paton had a disastrous year. Hackett was an all-time terrible HC, Russ flopped badly, Gregory got hurt, your top draft pick wasn’t an every down player.

Good God man. His best accomplishment was taking Surtain with a top 10 pick? That ain’t gonna cut it and you know it

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Gregory played what five games this year? While Denver is getting laughed at for the Wilson trade and contract and rightfully so not enough attention has been paid to the Gregory contract. That is an unmitigated disaster this year and one of the worst FA signings by any team.

Who did you get for Von? Nick Bonito who finished with a whopping 14 tackles and 1.5 sacks? Sure your young guys got lots of experience yet that means nothing if they aren’t good, which they aren’t. There are only two Broncos, maybe 3 that would start in KC, Surtain, Jeudy, and Simmons.

Remember when he said that only 5 or 6 Chiefs could start for Denver? And some of Denver's backups were better than KC starters?