Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition - Page 38

**TribalElder** · 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute

Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

**TribalElder** · 08-01-2023, 01:57 PM

Do you think Chris Jones will be petty in interviews like Tyreek is after we go on to have success without him?

**srvy** · 08-01-2023, 02:14 PM

I fully believe Veach has a number that he won't go a penny over. That number allows us to possibly resign key other players. He will finagle the contract around a bit but won't go over. I don't know but my guess is 30 million a year is probably over the max for his age. We will see but I won't rip Jones for trying and a lot of teams would jump to pay a player of his caliber that much.

As for long snapper, I remember Hank Stram had Bobby Bell as his long snapper. Bobby was an important cog on that defense. That's the value Stram put into special teams.

I also wonder if we will extend Creed. It would be very difficult if he chases the money. In my heart, he is the type of player who if he loves it here takes a discount. But that's just my feeling that could be completely wrong.

smithandrew051 · 08-01-2023, 02:29 PM

Man, winning the last Super Bowl makes me so much more calm about this situation.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-01-2023, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

For ****'s sake, "officially" sign him for about $25 million per, then slip him a duffle bag full of cash under the table.

Damn AML rules make it impossible...

IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-01-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They can't trade him now so it's kind of pointless to discuss and I don't think you can tag and trade him next year with that cap hit.

So CJ and his agent definitely have some leverage here.

I hate to just let him walk next season with no compensation coming back. I'm not really sure the answer here.

Chiefs have way more leverage than people think. Jones is under contract and it would be way stupid to sit out the year. Chiefs can seek a trade if they come to a true impasse. If we our offering 27-28 mill a year, Chris is a fool not to take it and stay with the Chiefs. He increases his KC legacy which has long lasting effects (see Neil Smith) opposed to leaving, and the HOF becomes increasingly locked if we win another ring. Due to the above, I think Chris is signing and the Chiefs have an idea of when. He probably wants to sit out a bit of this hot nasty camp. I'm guessing he will sign next Tuesday...That is all.

O.city · 08-01-2023, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Chiefs have way more leverage than people think. Jones is under contract and it would be way stupid to sit out the year. Chiefs can seek a trade if they come to a true impasse. If we our offering 27-28 mill a year, Chris is a fool not to take it and stay with the Chiefs. He increases his KC legacy which has long lasting effects (see Neil Smith) opposed to leaving, and the HOF becomes increasingly locked if we win another ring. Due to the above, I think Chris is signing and the Chiefs have an idea of when. He probably wants to sit out a bit of this hot nasty camp. I'm guessing he will sign next Tuesday...That is all.

He's already at 33 mil on the tag next year, so the new extension would start there.

The Chiefs are in a SB window, it's past FA/Draft so they can't fill that spot. A trade isn't really likely at this point this year.

It's kinda a ****ed spot for both parties.

Hoover · 08-01-2023, 02:58 PM

Bart Veach > Jones

KCJake · 08-01-2023, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk

I mean I was 16 years old at that time. While my family had season tickets to the Chiefs and I went to every game and considered (still do) to be a loyal, diehard fan, I didn't exactly give a shit about what other teams were doing back then. Had a few other things grabbing my attention back at that age.

Mostly d!cks

KCJake · 08-01-2023, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

For ****'s sake, "officially" sign him for about $25 million per, then slip him a duffle bag full of cash under the table.

He'd still say no. He wants it on paper for the whole world to see that he's the man. The ego of the payday is what this is all about.

Okchief80 · 08-01-2023, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

I fully believe Veach has a number that he won't go a penny over. That number allows us to possibly resign key other players. He will finagle the contract around a bit but won't go over. I don't know but my guess is 30 million a year is probably over the max for his age. We will see but I won't rip Jones for trying and a lot of teams would jump to pay a player of his caliber that much.

As for long snapper, I remember Hank Stram had Bobby Bell as his long snapper. Bobby was an important cog on that defense. That's the value Stram put into special teams.

I also wonder if we will extend Creed. It would be very difficult if he chases the money. In my heart, he is the type of player who if he loves it here takes a discount. But that's just my feeling that could be completely wrong.

Creed is a much easier extension because the contract will be for his prime years of play like Jones current contract. I would bet the holdup on the contract is for the fourth or fifth year. We don’t want to be playing a 34 year old jones $30 million.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-01-2023, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Man,Having Patrick Mahomes and winning the last Super Bowl makes me so much more calm about this situation.

Fixed

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-01-2023, 04:11 PM

CJ gave Veach leverage by saying he'll be a Chief for life but other than that he needs to be a team player, take a 4 year 100 mill , Veach should make it fully guaranteed or what I expect will happen is he gets traded while he's tradeable.

We can still win a SB without CJ. We have Mahomes and that's what matters.

tyecopeland · 08-01-2023, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake

He'd still say no. He wants it on paper for the whole world to see that he's the man. The ego of the payday is what this is all about.

Are all of your posts this stupid or just this one?

PAChiefsGuy · 08-01-2023, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

CJ gave Veach leverage by saying he'll be a Chief for life but other than that he needs to be a team player, take a 4 year 100 mill , Veach should make it fully guaranteed or what I expect will happen is he gets traded while he's tradeable.

We can still win a SB without CJ. We have Mahomes and that's what matters.

It's a team game. Yes having Mahomes makes things a hell of a lot easier but you still need other pieces around him.. we don't win the SB last season wout Chris Jones.

I'm sure something will get worked out. Sometimes these things take time..

Red Dawg · 08-01-2023, 06:26 PM

Good as gone in 24. Veach made a mistake not trading him last spring.

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08-01-2023, 02:14 PM	#557
srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $-1968750	I fully believe Veach has a number that he won't go a penny over. That number allows us to possibly resign key other players. He will finagle the contract around a bit but won't go over. I don't know but my guess is 30 million a year is probably over the max for his age. We will see but I won't rip Jones for trying and a lot of teams would jump to pay a player of his caliber that much. As for long snapper, I remember Hank Stram had Bobby Bell as his long snapper. Bobby was an important cog on that defense. That's the value Stram put into special teams. I also wonder if we will extend Creed. It would be very difficult if he chases the money. In my heart, he is the type of player who if he loves it here takes a discount. But that's just my feeling that could be completely wrong. __________________ "The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1901821	Bart Veach > Jones
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1399523	CJ gave Veach leverage by saying he'll be a Chief for life but other than that he needs to be a team player, take a 4 year 100 mill , Veach should make it fully guaranteed or what I expect will happen is he gets traded while he's tradeable. We can still win a SB without CJ. We have Mahomes and that's what matters.
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08-01-2023, 06:26 PM	#570
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1502858	Good as gone in 24. Veach made a mistake not trading him last spring. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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