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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:48 PM   #556
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Every time this thread is bumped, I think we signed a new starting pitcher.
Every time I see it bumped I get pumped because for the first time in a long time and basically my whole life we can have legitimate optimism about the upcoming season. I don't really count 2004.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:57 PM   #557
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:29 PM   #558
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welp. The Royals got better, but according to at least one of the computers, they did not improve enough. The ZiPS projection is not fully out yet, but since the Royals "went all in", they released a sneak preview of KC.

Our rotation was upgraded by about 2 wins. Hopefully some of our hitters will bounce back a lot more than expected, and Frenchy will have a WAR on the correct side of zero. Billy Butler is projected to be our most valuable hitter, and James Shields is projected to be our most valuable pitcher.

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It’s not that the additions of Wade Davis and James Shields won’t help the Royals: they will. It’s to what degree they’ll help — especially considering the cost (i.e. Wil Myers). While ZiPS projects the Toronto Blue Jays’ renovated starting rotation (featured yesterday) to produce about 10 more wins than in 2012, Kansas City’s starting rotation is forecast to post a collective mark only about one or two wins better than last year’s version (which recorded a 7.6 WAR, all told, it appears).
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instant fun poll: the Royals went all-in.

What two cards are we holding? To make it simple, assume we went all-in pre-flop, we bet first, with 5 players at the table.

I'll say Queen-King suited.
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Those ZIPS projections look interesting, especially with Shields, Santana and Guthrie.

I would be surprised if 2/3 don't OVERPERFORM those projections by a half run to a full run.

As for the hand... I like Ace/Jack. King/Ten might be better.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:29 PM   #563
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I don't get that projection at all - we had 80+ starts eaten up by complete crap, below replacement level guys. We had another 40 eaten up by replacement guys. Just by getting them out of there, we improve probably 5 wins or more.


Now does 72 to 77 wins sound like a lot? No. But it ain't 2 wins. GMAFB
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I don't get that projection at all - we had 80+ starts eaten up by complete crap, below replacement level guys. We had another 40 eaten up by replacement guys. Just by getting them out of there, we improve probably 5 wins or more.


Now does 72 to 77 wins sound like a lot? No. But it ain't 2 wins. GMAFB
I agree with this. I would think we would gain 5 wins alone by not being out of games in the first couple innings. There had to be at least five times alone last year where we were in a hole very early in the game. Now I know what was posted above is likely an objective prediction of what will happen, and my feeling doesn't really dispute that, but it's very hard for me to believe that improving our starting rotation to the extent that we have will not translate into immediate success.

Am I just being a complete homer in thinking that?
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Ned Yost this morning said that 6 Royals have the potential to hit 25+ HRs this season. He had Cain and Gordon hitting 20-25. Moose and Hosmer hitting 25-30. Perez hitting 30-35 and Butler hitting 35-40.

And he also talked about being much more aggressive this season on offense and letting the hitters take big swings when they needed to.
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