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Old 11-21-2019, 10:45 PM  
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Old 02-19-2024, 08:23 PM   #556
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Reminds me of the Van Damme's car in TimeCop
Or the death probe in 6 Million Dollar Man.
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Old 02-19-2024, 09:35 PM   #557
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Does the rear seat have as little headroom as it appears to have?
I was wondering what makes this a 'pickup' and not a SUV?

Is lack of headroom in back the reason?
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Old 02-19-2024, 10:11 PM   #558
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I like a lot of what Elon Musk does, but this project seems like the result of not enough pushback from his team.
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Old 02-20-2024, 06:59 AM   #559
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I was wondering what makes this a 'pickup' and not a SUV?

Is lack of headroom in back the reason?



Someone is also selling a $24k camper shell for it
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Old 02-20-2024, 07:25 AM   #560
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Old 02-20-2024, 07:27 AM   #561
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Still waiting on the tri-wheel version rocket-equipped version they teased in an ad from 1977.
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Old 02-20-2024, 09:35 AM   #562
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I saw a car hauler carrying 7 or 8 of those driving down I-95 in Florida.
They looked absolutely horrendous in real life. The stainless looked like the surface of a well used teflon frying pan. Everything looked so out of proportion.
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Old 02-20-2024, 09:51 AM   #563
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So the NHTSA has ****ed Tesla. I was going to buy a new Tesla. Test drove all of them. Was confused why the Auto Pilot (Not Full Self Driving) sucked so bad. On new Teslas with the cabin camera it constantly nags and disengages autopilot. I started reading and found out two months ago NHTSA forced Tesla to make these changes and to monitor a drivers eyes with the cabin camera. So if you look away for 2 seconds to update the map, change the station or song, look out the window it auto nags. Its not even worth using anymore.

I know folks will claim this is great for safety but now there is no point to even use it. Id rather just drive normally and be distracted that way. Studies shown that prior older vehicles that didnt track the eyes and just relied on periodic pressure to the steering wheel for their autopilot nags was much safer than cars that just did not have auto pilot. Because in a real world environment people will always get tired, always get distracted etc. Distracted on autopilot > distracted not on it. Now people are just not going to use AP because its so annoying and actually makes a drive more stressful.

So I see no reason to get rid of my old Tesla where autopilot works fine and my face isn't tracked to nag me every time Im not a driving zombie. Im sure Elons persona did him no favors with the NHTSA.
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Old 02-20-2024, 10:06 AM   #565
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I googled images and didn't immediately see that it opened up into a bed. So I guess it is more pickup-ish than I realized.
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So the NHTSA has ****ed Tesla. I was going to buy a new Tesla. Test drove all of them. Was confused why the Auto Pilot (Not Full Self Driving) sucked so bad. On new Teslas with the cabin camera it constantly nags and disengages autopilot. I started reading and found out two months ago NHTSA forced Tesla to make these changes and to monitor a drivers eyes with the cabin camera. So if you look away for 2 seconds to update the map, change the station or song, look out the window it auto nags. Its not even worth using anymore.

I know folks will claim this is great for safety but now there is no point to even use it. Id rather just drive normally and be distracted that way. Studies shown that prior older vehicles that didnt track the eyes and just relied on periodic pressure to the steering wheel for their autopilot nags was much safer than cars that just did not have auto pilot. Because in a real world environment people will always get tired, always get distracted etc. Distracted on autopilot > distracted not on it. Now people are just not going to use AP because its so annoying and actually makes a drive more stressful.

So I see no reason to get rid of my old Tesla where autopilot works fine and my face isn't tracked to nag me every time Im not a driving zombie. Im sure Elons persona did him no favors with the NHTSA.
Yeah, that ****ing sucks.

I want some sort of autopilot pretty bad. I drive a lot of miles on county roads that it obviously wouldn't work on, but there are a lot of highway miles that I would get a TON of value out of mentally checking out for a few minutes.

I've long said that Automated driving will outperform humans, but the liability will fall on the manufacturers, and that will be a problem.

Obviously I was wrong on it shitcanning the whole thing, but it looks like the lawyers are still fighting.

How long until someone Jailbreaks a Tesla? LOL
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Yeah, that ****ing sucks.

I want some sort of autopilot pretty bad. I drive a lot of miles on county roads that it obviously wouldn't work on, but there are a lot of highway miles that I would get a TON of value out of mentally checking out for a few minutes.

I've long said that Automated driving will outperform humans, but the liability will fall on the manufacturers, and that will be a problem.

Obviously I was wrong on it shitcanning the whole thing, but it looks like the lawyers are still fighting.

How long until someone Jailbreaks a Tesla? LOL
Autodrive liability insurance is coming.

Can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet.

On a side note airplane autopilot has taken a massive amount of stress off my shoulders when I used to fly. “When stressed let the best pilot in the plane do the flying, and it isnt you”.
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Autodrive liability insurance is coming.

Can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet.

On a side note airplane autopilot has taken a massive amount of stress off my shoulders when I used to fly. “When stressed let the best pilot in the plane do the flying, and it isnt you”.
Yep. Even a million years ago when the first autosteer tractors hit the market, I was skeptical. Then I watched one. It will whip my ass all over the field. And I'm a good operator.
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Yep. Even a million years ago when the first autosteer tractors hit the market, I was skeptical. Then I watched one. It will whip my ass all over the field. And I'm a good operator.
If autotrack was going when I was in high school I’d probably be farming today.

I could handle 8-9 hour days of paying attention in the 4430 or 4850, but it broke me each summer.

I couldn’t imagine myself doing that for the next 60 years. It’d be a living hell.
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I googled images and didn't immediately see that it opened up into a bed. So I guess it is more pickup-ish than I realized.
How big is the bed, though? Looks more like an El Camino.
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