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**DaFace** · 07:17 AM

Since a number of cool things are happening in space exploration these days, we'll widen the scope of this thread a smidge. Conversation about all things space exploration are welcome, whether it be from NASA, SpaceX, ULA, Blue Origin, or anyone else. Chances are most of the discussion will still be about SpaceX since they love to make things public and fun, but nothing's off limits. I'll eventually get around to modifying the OP to include resources for other companies too, but in the meantime, feel free to post any cool stuff you run across.

Lists of Upcoming Missions

Spoiler!

How to Watch a Live Launch

Spoiler!

Where to Learn More

Spoiler!

Glossary

Spoiler!

Space discussions tend to get a little bogged down in jargon, so here's a list of terms you might encounter. (Others, please let me know of others that should be added.)

ASDS - Autonomous Spaceport Droneship - The "barges" that they sometimes land rockets on.
Dragon - The cone-shaped capsule that sits at the top of the rocket for ISS-bound launches that holds the cargo (or, in the future, humans).
F9 - Falcon 9, the name of the rocket itself.
FH - Falcon Heavy, the three-booster version.
GTO - Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit, a type of orbit that will eventually result in the satellite orbiting the earth as it turns so that it seems to be in the same spot from the ground (such as DirecTV or Dish satellites). These types of launches are particularly challenging because they require a lot of power to get them into the right orbit, leaving very little fuel left for landing.
HIF - Horizontal Integration Facility - the building near the launch pad where they put all of the pieces of the rocket together before rolling it out to the pad.
ISS - The International Space Station
JRTI - Just Read The Instructions, the name of the "barge" that they land on for west-coast launches.
LEO - Low Earth Orbit, a fairly low orbit shared by many satellites and ISS. These launches usually require less power to achieve the proper orbit, so the first stage can often be landed back on land rather than on a drone ship.
LZ1 - Landing Zone 1, basically a big open slab of concrete at Cape Canaveral where the first stage will attempt to land (for some launches).
NET - No Earlier Than, basically the date they're hoping to launch, but rocket launches have a tendency of getting delayed.
OCISLY - Of Course I Still Love You, the name of the "barge" that they land on for east-coast launches.
RTLS - Return to Landing Site, a mission where the first stage comes back and lands at LZ1.
Starship - SpaceX's next-generation rocket (and spacecraft) that will hopefully one day take us to Mars. Starship is the "second stage" that will carry cargo or people, but also refers to the whole system. (It's confusing, but think of it like the Space Shuttle, which was both the shuttle itself and the entire launch system.)
Super Heavy - The giant booster that will carry Starship to space.

GeorgeZimZam · 10-09-2024, 09:51 PM

Expect the FAA license to be granted Friday, ahead of Sunday’s Starship Flight 5.

GloryDayz · 10-09-2024, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

In fear of this thread moving to DC, I'll just say that your idea would take away a lot of hard working American jobs.

Nothing to do with DC or politics, this is simply the FAA moving too slowly to keep up with the pace of the likes of SpaceX, Blue Origin, Rocket Lab and other companies working very hard to get us to where we need to be. Publish something that says how long approval will take, make sure it's fair, set a deadline to approve, and if the FAA can't meet the published timetable for approval the launch event is automatically approved. Furthermore, if the answer is no, they need to publish why, and let their reason stand the test of public scrutiny.

MagicHef · 10-10-2024, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Nothing to do with DC or politics, this is simply the FAA moving too slowly to keep up with the pace of the likes of SpaceX, Blue Origin, Rocket Lab and other companies working very hard to get us to where we need to be. Publish something that says how long approval will take, make sure it's fair, set a deadline to approve, and if the FAA can't meet the published timetable for approval the launch event is automatically approved. Furthermore, if the answer is no, they need to publish why, and let their reason stand the test of public scrutiny.

Nothing moves too slow to keep up with Blue Origin

stumppy · 10-10-2024, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Nothing to do with DC or politics, this is simply the FAA moving too slowly to keep up with the pace of the likes of SpaceX, Blue Origin, Rocket Lab and other companies working very hard to get us to where we need to be. Publish something that says how long approval will take, make sure it's fair, set a deadline to approve, and if the FAA can't meet the published timetable for approval the launch event is automatically approved. Furthermore, if the answer is no, they need to publish why, and let their reason stand the test of public scrutiny.

Can't foresee any problems as a result of this brilliant idea.

4th and Long · 10-10-2024, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy

Can't foresee any problems as a result of this brilliant idea.

Safety is not on his list of priorities.

4th and Long · 10-10-2024, 07:17 PM

If anyone cares, the aurora borealis has arrived in the greater K.C. metro area, again.

GeorgeZimZam · 10-11-2024, 10:16 AM

Aurora from Starbase, Texas (25.9° latitude) as Starship prepares for Flight 5! pic.twitter.com/1AHbWBSShM
— John Kraus (@johnkrausphotos) October 11, 2024

GeorgeZimZam · 10-11-2024, 10:33 AM

Starship stacked for Flight 5 pic.twitter.com/34sak4nCrY
— John Kraus (@johnkrausphotos) October 11, 2024

GeorgeZimZam · 10-11-2024, 12:46 PM

How will @SpaceX catch Starship's Super Heavy booster with a giant robotic tower? Here's my full video giving you a rundown on how exactly they plan to do this daring catch maneuver!!! #IFT5 pic.twitter.com/wNi1Vlw89w
— Everyday Astronaut (@Erdayastronaut) October 11, 2024

GeorgeZimZam · 10-11-2024, 02:01 PM

Starship stacked ahead of its fifth flight test. We expect regulatory approval in time to fly on October 13 pic.twitter.com/HCN4dcm1hZ
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) October 11, 2024

GeorgeZimZam · 10-11-2024, 04:50 PM

From what I hear, and this is of course subject to change, the FAA could grant SpaceX a license tomorrow, allowing the company to launch Starship on Sunday. pic.twitter.com/GQItrZLpRL
— Christian Davenport (@wapodavenport) October 11, 2024

GeorgeZimZam · 10-11-2024, 08:49 PM

ou sucks

Also, expect SpaceX to get its Starship launch license tomorrow.

But mostly, ou sucks.
— Eric Berger (@SciGuySpace) October 11, 2024

GeorgeZimZam · 10-12-2024, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam

Now set for Monday, October 14th.

Quote:

RocketLaunch.Live: The Europa Clipper mission is designed to explore Jupiter’s icy moon Europa, which is believed to harbor an ocean beneath its thick ice shell. This NASA mission will investigate whether Europa has the necessary conditions to support life by performing nearly 50 flybys of the moon. Equipped with state-of-the-art instruments, the spacecraft will gather data about the moon’s surface, ice structure, and potential water plumes. These observations will help scientists understand Europa’s composition and its potential for harboring life beneath its ice-covered ocean.

Europa Clipper's payload includes a range of scientific tools such as ice-penetrating radar, spectrometers, and thermal imaging systems, which will help reveal the moon’s internal structure and composition. The spacecraft will be protected from Jupiter’s intense radiation by a specially designed vault to shield its electronics. With its enormous solar arrays, the spacecraft is also one of the largest NASA has ever built for a planetary mission.

The launch date is currently targeted for Monday, October 14, 2024 at 4:06 PM (UTC).

GeorgeZimZam · 10-12-2024, 08:22 AM

Back at it 🤙 pic.twitter.com/owmtX3Uvrj
— Adam Bernstein (@ABernNYC) October 12, 2024

To say I'm freaking excited about #SpaceX's Starship Flight Test 5 (tomorrow &#128591 is a gross understatement.

🚀 Let's do this! 🤩https://t.co/IrugNJ00KF pic.twitter.com/ittHjPjdMC
— Marcus House (@MarcusHouse) October 12, 2024

I've created a web game inspired by the upcoming SpaceX Mechazilla's booster catch, happening on Oct 13th. Check it out and try landing the booster yourself at https://t.co/ZGehc2og83 👀 #mechazillaio #SpaceX #mechazilla #starship #IndieGame #gamedev
— Andre Almeida (@AndredAlmeida) October 11, 2024

GeorgeZimZam · 10-12-2024, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam

I've created a web game inspired by the upcoming SpaceX Mechazilla's booster catch, happening on Oct 13th. Check it out and try landing the booster yourself at https://t.co/ZGehc2og83 👀 #mechazillaio #SpaceX #mechazilla #starship #IndieGame #gamedev
— Andre Almeida (@AndredAlmeida) October 11, 2024

And another Starship game:

Ready to catch a booster? → https://t.co/Vm3Jd6s8Y4 pic.twitter.com/UtKDTkGiFg
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) October 12, 2024

06-01-2014, 09:40 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $116899	Space Exploration megathread Since a number of cool things are happening in space exploration these days, we'll widen the scope of this thread a smidge. Conversation about all things space exploration are welcome, whether it be from NASA, SpaceX, ULA, Blue Origin, or anyone else. Chances are most of the discussion will still be about SpaceX since they love to make things public and fun, but nothing's off limits. I'll eventually get around to modifying the OP to include resources for other companies too, but in the meantime, feel free to post any cool stuff you run across. Lists of Upcoming Missions Spoiler! General lists: https://nextspaceflight.com/ http://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/ SpaceX specific list: https://spacexnow.com/upcoming.php How to Watch a Live Launch Spoiler! SpaceX: https://www.spacex.com/launches/ ULA: https://www.youtube.com/user/UnitedLaunchAlliance RocketLab: https://www.youtube.com/user/RocketLabNZ NASATV will also cover some launches (primarily ISS resupply missions): https://www.youtube.com/user/NASAtelevision Where to Learn More Spoiler! Some cool pics... https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacex/ https://www.instagram.com/spacex/?hl=en Twitter feed is usually interesing... https://twitter.com/SpaceX https://twitter.com/elonmusk The SpaceX sub is a great source of info... https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/wiki/index And for a more forum-style discussion board... http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php#c17 And there are plenty of YouTube channels with great content... Joe Scott - Lost of "future" discussion. Some about rockets and space. Much that goes beyond. Scott Manley - Super smart dude (engineer) who reviews a lot of major events in space exploration. Frazer Cain (Universe Today) - Podcast-style videos that go in-depth into space topics. Tim Dodd (Everyday Astronaut) - A "random dude" who got really into space (particularly SpaceX). He's a great resource for simple explanations of this stuff, as well as live hosting launches. USLaunchReport - Lost of videos of the more mundane stuff (e.g., booster recovery operations). Not a ton of commentary. NASASpaceFlight - Live hosting of most launches including a ton of video of Starlink operations. Glossary Spoiler! Space discussions tend to get a little bogged down in jargon, so here's a list of terms you might encounter. (Others, please let me know of others that should be added.) ASDS - Autonomous Spaceport Droneship - The "barges" that they sometimes land rockets on. Dragon - The cone-shaped capsule that sits at the top of the rocket for ISS-bound launches that holds the cargo (or, in the future, humans). F9 - Falcon 9, the name of the rocket itself. FH - Falcon Heavy, the three-booster version. GTO - Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit, a type of orbit that will eventually result in the satellite orbiting the earth as it turns so that it seems to be in the same spot from the ground (such as DirecTV or Dish satellites). These types of launches are particularly challenging because they require a lot of power to get them into the right orbit, leaving very little fuel left for landing. HIF - Horizontal Integration Facility - the building near the launch pad where they put all of the pieces of the rocket together before rolling it out to the pad. ISS - The International Space Station JRTI - Just Read The Instructions, the name of the "barge" that they land on for west-coast launches. LEO - Low Earth Orbit, a fairly low orbit shared by many satellites and ISS. These launches usually require less power to achieve the proper orbit, so the first stage can often be landed back on land rather than on a drone ship. LZ1 - Landing Zone 1, basically a big open slab of concrete at Cape Canaveral where the first stage will attempt to land (for some launches). NET - No Earlier Than, basically the date they're hoping to launch, but rocket launches have a tendency of getting delayed. OCISLY - Of Course I Still Love You, the name of the "barge" that they land on for east-coast launches. RTLS - Return to Landing Site, a mission where the first stage comes back and lands at LZ1. Starship - SpaceX's next-generation rocket (and spacecraft) that will hopefully one day take us to Mars. Starship is the "second stage" that will carry cargo or people, but also refers to the whole system. (It's confusing, but think of it like the Space Shuttle, which was both the shuttle itself and the entire launch system.) Super Heavy - The giant booster that will carry Starship to space. Last edited by DaFace; 10-13-2024 at 07:17 AM..
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GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $3270400	Aurora from Starbase, Texas (25.9° latitude) as Starship prepares for Flight 5! pic.twitter.com/1AHbWBSShM — John Kraus (@johnkrausphotos) October 11, 2024
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10-11-2024, 10:33 AM	#5633
GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $3270400	Starship stacked for Flight 5 pic.twitter.com/34sak4nCrY — John Kraus (@johnkrausphotos) October 11, 2024 Starship stacked for Flight 5 pic.twitter.com/34sak4nCrY — John Kraus (@johnkrausphotos) October 11, 2024
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10-11-2024, 12:46 PM	#5634
GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $3270400	How will @SpaceX catch Starship's Super Heavy booster with a giant robotic tower? Here's my full video giving you a rundown on how exactly they plan to do this daring catch maneuver!!! #IFT5 pic.twitter.com/wNi1Vlw89w — Everyday Astronaut (@Erdayastronaut) October 11, 2024 How will @SpaceX catch Starship's Super Heavy booster with a giant robotic tower? Here's my full video giving you a rundown on how exactly they plan to do this daring catch maneuver!!! #IFT5 pic.twitter.com/wNi1Vlw89w — Everyday Astronaut (@Erdayastronaut) October 11, 2024
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10-11-2024, 02:01 PM	#5635
GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $3270400	Starship stacked ahead of its fifth flight test. We expect regulatory approval in time to fly on October 13 pic.twitter.com/HCN4dcm1hZ — SpaceX (@SpaceX) October 11, 2024
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10-11-2024, 04:50 PM	#5636
GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $3270400	From what I hear, and this is of course subject to change, the FAA could grant SpaceX a license tomorrow, allowing the company to launch Starship on Sunday. pic.twitter.com/GQItrZLpRL — Christian Davenport (@wapodavenport) October 11, 2024
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10-11-2024, 08:49 PM	#5637
GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $3270400	“OU sucks…FAA Starship license imminent” ou sucks Also, expect SpaceX to get its Starship launch license tomorrow. But mostly, ou sucks. — Eric Berger (@SciGuySpace) October 11, 2024 Last edited by GeorgeZimZam; 10-11-2024 at 08:57 PM..
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10-12-2024, 08:22 AM	#5639
GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $3270400	STARSHIP FLIGHT 5 EXCITEMENT LEVELS RISING Back at it 🤙 pic.twitter.com/owmtX3Uvrj — Adam Bernstein (@ABernNYC) October 12, 2024 To say I'm freaking excited about #SpaceX's Starship Flight Test 5 (tomorrow &#128591 is a gross understatement. 🚀 Let's do this! 🤩https://t.co/IrugNJ00KF pic.twitter.com/ittHjPjdMC — Marcus House (@MarcusHouse) October 12, 2024 To say I'm freaking excited about #SpaceX's Starship Flight Test 5 (tomorrow &#128591 is a gross understatement. 🚀 Let's do this! 🤩https://t.co/IrugNJ00KF pic.twitter.com/ittHjPjdMC — Marcus House (@MarcusHouse) October 12, 2024 I've created a web game inspired by the upcoming SpaceX Mechazilla's booster catch, happening on Oct 13th. Check it out and try landing the booster yourself at https://t.co/ZGehc2og83 👀 #mechazillaio #SpaceX #mechazilla #starship #IndieGame #gamedev — Andre Almeida (@AndredAlmeida) October 11, 2024
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