New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[baitism]

KSU fans are going to be a bit butt hurt when they get passed over for the Alamo and Cotton bowl this year and are stuck in the Insight bowl, even though they will be deserving of better. Then they might get a better grasp of what MU is tired of.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Pants

Analogy fail.

MU fan: I'm a cop (football power).
KU fan: Naw, you're a security guard (you've never won shit and really are just mediocre at best)
MU fan: I'm applying to the Police Academy.
KU fan: Good luck, have fun.
MU fan: Why are you so butthurt?
KU fan: I'm not.
MU fan: Yes. Yes, you're. If you weren't, you wouldn't be talking to me right now!

MU fan is a mediocre musician that's had some success in recent years, but can't quite seem to break through to the next level, and KU fan is a tourist that's in town with their family and seem to be little lost. They would really like to get Timmy to the zoo before the aquarium exhibit closes, but they missed their exit due to construction and after grabbing something to eat, they aren't sure how to continue. They're looking for directions, and come across MU fan, who has just finished an adequate meal at Planet Sub and is heading to his secondary job down the street.

Go.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

MU fan is a mediocre musician that's had some success in recent years, but can't quite seem to break through to the next level, and KU fan is a tourist that's in town with their family and seem to be little lost. They would really like to get Timmy to the zoo before the aquarium exhibit closes, but they missed their exit due to construction and after grabbing something to eat, they aren't sure how to continue. They're looking for directions, and come across MU fan, who has just finished an adequate meal at Planet Sub and is heading to his secondary job down the street.

Go.

Holy shit.

I don't have the capacity to make this analogy bloom.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.

Actually, you just did a pretty good job of it. There's nothing for me to add.

Maybe we could combine the food and girlfriend analogies into something like this:

KU: My boyfriend who takes me to McDonalds sure is great. He can't afford to buy me a value meal like your boyfriend bought you, but at least I get a hamburger and a water.

MU: Actually, our boyfriends are losers. I'm going out with a guy with a job to a restaurant with a white tablecloth.

KU: You think that makes him better than my boyfriend? Your new boyfriend probably won't even buy you champagne to go with your prime rib.

MU: Still beats the shit out of eating at McDonalds with a guy who was trying to get the cashier's number right in front of you.

KU: Whatever. He's changed. He said he's going to marry me.

MU: Then where's the ring?

KU: It's right here on my hand. He called it a promise ring.

MU: It's plastic, and I think it came out of a gumball machine, but it's kind of shiny, I guess. Enjoy your burger.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Actually, you just did a pretty good job of it. There's nothing for me to add.

Maybe we could combine the food and girlfriend analogies into something like this:

KU: My boyfriend who takes me to McDonalds sure is great. He can't afford to buy me a value meal like your boyfriend bought you, but at least I get a hamburger and a water.

MU: Actually, our boyfriends are losers. I'm going out with a guy with a job to a restaurant with a white tablecloth.

KU: You think that makes him better than my boyfriend? Your new boyfriend probably won't even buy you champagne to go with your prime rib.

MU: Still beats the shit out of eating at McDonalds with a guy who was trying to get the cashier's number right in front of you.

KU: Whatever. He's changed. He said he's going to marry me.

MU: Then where's the ring?

KU: It's right here on my hand. He called it a promise ring.

MU: It's plastic, and I think it came out of a gumball machine, but it's kind of shiny, I guess. Enjoy your burger.

That would be the big 10. The sec is more like applebees.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by baitism

KSU fans are going to be a bit butt hurt when they get passed over for the Alamo and Cotton bowl this year and are stuck in the Insight bowl, even though they will be deserving of better. Then they might get a better grasp of what MU is tired of.

This never occurred to me, but you're right - when Missouri leaves, K-State will become the new Missouri, only even more heavily disrespected.

Something to look forward to, I guess.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by baitism

KSU fans are going to be a bit butt hurt when they get passed over for the Alamo and Cotton bowl this year and are stuck in the Insight bowl, even though they will be deserving of better. Then they might get a better grasp of what MU is tired of.

Actually, the original "passed over" for a better bowl already happened to KSU in 98.

Lost the B12 CCG in OT no less, and while still in the top 5 of the BCS with a single loss, dropped all the way to the Alamo Bowl. That's when the BCS changed their rule about only 1 team per conference in a BCS bowl.
A change which benefitted both NU and OU (2003).

What happened to MU was outright theft. That, and Alden being a dummy.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Actually, the original "passed over" for a better bowl already happened to KSU in 98.

Lost the B12 CCG in OT no less, and while still in the top 5 of the BCS with a single loss, dropped all the way to the Alamo Bowl. That's when the BCS changed their rule about only 1 team per conference in a BCS bowl.
A change which benefitted both NU and OU (2003).

What happened to MU was outright theft. That, and Alden being a dummy.

Could you please explain this with an analogy about dancing?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by frazod

This never occurred to me, but you're right - when Missouri leaves, K-State will become the new Missouri, only even more heavily disrespected.

Something to look forward to, I guess.

And KSU will be KU's new "rival".

Instead of playing for the Border War drum, they will wave the wheat in unison at midfield of Olathe North's stadium.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Could you please explain this with an analogy about dancing?

KSU was dancing and fell off the stage, breaking it's neck. No paralysis, but rehab was long and arduous.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

And KSU will be KU's new "rival".

Instead of playing for the Border War drum, they will wave the wheat in unison at midfield of Olathe North's stadium.

They'll have to find another rival. We have Texas. (if they can win a few to make it less one sided)

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

That would be the big 10. The sec is more like applebees.

Please give me a junior membership to the B1G instead of a full membership in the best conference on the planet (and the only one that's mattered for most of the past decade).

I'd much rather play at Minnesota than LSU.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

They'll have to find another rival. We have Texas. (if they can win a few to make it less one sided)

I don't know how to break this to you, but I think UT considers Oklahoma their rival. I think they even have a name for that rivalry.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Please give me a junior membership to the B1G instead of a full membership in the best conference on the planet (and the only one that's mattered for most of the past decade).

I'd much rather play at Minnesota than LSU.

I'm curious. Were you saying you'd rather go to the SEC when you thought there was a Big 10 invite on the table?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

That would be the big 10. The sec is more like applebees.

The Big 10 is Applebee's... a lot of people love it, and I still haven't figured out why. The SEC is like Gates... you could nitpick, but it's pretty darn good, and I wonder how some people can hate it.