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[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I've mentioned it before, but Paton's first draft was amazing. Despite trading a lot of picks for Russ, he still managed to get guys like Greg Dulcich and Demarri Mathis this year.

And you think those picks offset all that he traded for Wilson, Wilson himself, and the contract extension? Let's not forget that he was the one the hired the coach that lasted just 15 games too.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by tredadda

You mean the same Dan Quinn who was fired once? Still curious as to the achievements of Paton.

BB, Mike Shanahan, Reid, Kubiak, Tom Coughlin and Tony Dungy were all let go from a previous job and went on to win a Super Bowl at their next stop.

I think coaches getting their second shot are "safer" than gambling on a rookie HC.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by tredadda

If his drafts are so good then why is his team 4-11?

I guess maybe they would be 1-14 otherwise?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

And you think those picks offset all that he traded for Wilson, Wilson himself, and the contract extension? Let's not forget that he was the one the hired the coach that lasted just 15 games too.

Hackett and his staff and the injuries are to blame for the decline of Russ this year.

Hiring Hackett was a big mistake. There are reports that the early contract extension was being pushed by ownership. It's hard to find good coaches, once a team finds one they rarely let them go.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by tredadda

If his drafts are so good then why is his team 4-11?

Paton has progressively made them worse. They went from Von Miller and Bradley Chubb to Randy Gregory (2 sacks ) and Baron Browning.

Paton is damn lucky that he inherited DreMont Jones. Hell Vic Fangio built that defense and Paton has completely dismantled it.

He’s terrible

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by tredadda

If his drafts are so good then why is his team 4-11?

Because we have been down 3 of our top 4 WR's for most of the season?

Because our starting LT, RT, and Center have been down for most of the season?

Because our #1, #2 and #3 RB's to start the season are either on I.R. or off of the team?

Because Dulcich missed the first six games of the season due to a hamstring injury?

Because his HC and staff weren't up to snuff?

That's just on offense. We've had issues on defense and special teams too.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

BB, Mike Shanahan, Reid, Kubiak, Tom Coughlin and Tony Dungy were all let go from a previous job and went on to win a Super Bowl at their next stop.

I think coaches getting their second shot are "safer" than gambling on a rookie HC.

I hope they get Quinn and he fails again because the problem with your team is your GM and QB are some of the worst in football.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Hackett and his staff and the injuries are to blame for the decline of Russ this year.

Hiring Hackett was a big mistake. There are reports that the early contract extension was being pushed by ownership. It's hard to find good coaches, once a team finds one they rarely let them go.

Well, I disagree, but it's your GM and your team. If Wilson is just as bad next year, will Paton fire the new coach too? You have Wilson under contract for what, another 6 years? So, if Wilson doesn't improve, you'll have to bite the bullet on the Wilson trade/extension. Those are essentially sunk costs, but Paton put you in that position. Personally, I think Paton sunk the franchise for many years to come with that trade.

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Because we have been down 3 of our top 4 WR's for most of the season?

Because our starting LT, RT, and Center have been down for most of the season?

Because our #1, #2 and #3 RB's to start the season are either on I.R. or off of the team?

Because Dulcich missed the first six games of the season due to a hamstring injury?

Because his HC and staff weren't up to snuff?

That's just on offense. We've had issues on defense and special teams too.

Translation: we suck at talent evaluation.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I've mentioned it before, but Paton's first draft was amazing. Despite trading a lot of picks for Russ, he still managed to get guys like Greg Dulcich and Demarri Mathis this year.

Ah yes Greg 400 yards receiving and 2 touchdowns Dulcich! How could we forget that amazing player. Time to take another

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Because we have been down 3 of our top 4 WR's for most of the season?

Because our starting LT, RT, and Center have been down for most of the season?

Because our #1, #2 and #3 RB's to start the season are either on I.R. or off of the team?

Because Dulcich missed the first six games of the season due to a hamstring injury?

Because his HC and staff weren't up to snuff?

That's just on offense. We've had issues on defense and special teams too.

And the guy responsible for it ALL is still there

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Because we have been down 3 of our top 4 WR's for most of the season?

Because our starting LT, RT, and Center have been down for most of the season?

Because our #1, #2 and #3 RB's to start the season are either on I.R. or off of the team?

Because Dulcich missed the first six games of the season due to a hamstring injury?

Because his HC and staff weren't up to snuff?

That's just on offense. We've had issues on defense and special teams too.

Or your roster isn’t as good as you make it out to be and your $250 million QB is beyond awful. You can blame Hackett all you want, but it’s not his fault Russ misses wide open players. Is it Hackett’s fault for Russ’ three bad INTs against the Rams? It’s been shown time and again that Russ is a failure as a QB this year. Also your WRs are not nearly as good as you make them appear.

[BossChief]

Paton calling WalRuss”fixable” recently is hilarious on so many levels.

He’s acknowledging that

he paid above retail for a broken product
The plan he has/had in place for this historic move hasn’t worked and is a catastrophic failure
The future decisions are no longer up to him

Walmart is treating Paton like Clark treated Pioli.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Paton calling WalRuss”fixable” recently is hilarious on so many levels.

He’s acknowledging that

he paid above retail for a broken product
The plan he has/had in place for this historic move hasn’t worked and is a catastrophic failure
The future decisions are no longer up to him

Walmart is treating Paton like Clark treated Pioli.

When they realize Paton doesn’t bring “Great Value” to Denver they will can him as he wasn’t ever “Sam’s Choice”.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Ah yes Greg 400 yards receiving and 2 touchdowns Dulcich! How could we forget that amazing player. Time to take another

Dulcich leads all rookie TE's in receiving yards and is #2 in receiving TD's, despite missing the first 6 games of the year.