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[RealSNR]

More? You want more? YOU GOT MORE!

In just hours after Russell Wilson signing that extension...

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

That's $42.28M per year, btw. Great deal by General Paton.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

General Paton's deals are so good, other NFL agents are crying foul. @BlackOp

Company guy. Doing favors for the establishment to keep the rest of the men down. He’ll get something behind the scenes for this https://t.co/Xtv768ZwxJ

— Zac Hiller (@zachiller) September 1, 2022

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Denver already has a Super Bowl caliber roster, it's why they went after Russ in the first place and why Russ turned down other teams to come here.

The Rams haven't had a first round pick in 7 years. **** them picks.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Nick Korte's nerdy thoughts on Russ' contract:

Spoiler!

As first reported by Adam Schefter early this morning, Russell Wilson has agreed to a five year extension with the Broncos appended to his previous contract, keeping him under contract in Denver through the 2028 season, when he will turn 40. Late this morning, Mike Klis provided full details of Wilson’s contract, of which has now been uploaded to Over The Cap, as follows:




Overview

This five year extension adds $245 million in new money due to Wilson, thus at an APY of $49 million, although much of the money will be distributed to existing seasons. (A similar phenomenon exists with Kyler Murray’s recent extension.)

Note the unusual differing prorated bonus numbers through Wilson’s contract. This is the result of three different major bonuses that will be due to Wilson, as follows:

• Signing bonus of $50 million, prorated at $10 million each in 2022-2026.
• Option bonus of $20 million, prorated at $4 million each in 2023-2027.
• Option bonus of $22 million, prorated at $4.4 million each in 2024-2028.

It is unusual to see one option bonus in a contract these days, let alone two. The reason why these option bonuses were implemented was to allow the Broncos to increase the amount of cap space in the earlier seasons, as each prorated bonus can only span a maximum of five seasons. Option bonuses allow teams to manipulate that rule. In 2022 and 2023, Wilson’s cap number drops by $7 million and $5 million. 2024 is also at a reasonable $35.4 million before ballooning above $50 million in the remaining four seasons.

All three of these major bonuses are fully guaranteed, along with a roster bonus due this season for $5 million, along with base salaries in 2022-2024 summed to $27 million, for a total of $124 in fully guaranteed money. Wilson’s 2025 salary of $37 million vests to a full guarantee on the 5th day of the 2024 league year, and 2026 also contains a $2 million injury guarantee, for a grand total of $163 million in maximum guarantees.

The running cash flow in this contract is as follows:

• At signing: $33 million. (Wilson will be paid $57 million this season, as you can see in the sidebar, but $24 million of that was already on the books as old money.)
• Year 1: $73 million
• Year 2: $110 million
• Year 3: $150 million
• Year 4: $195 million

Hypothetically, the Broncos could part ways with Wilson after 2023, before his 2025 guarantee vests, but the dead money would be astronomical at $85 million, and something would have to go similarly astronomically wrong for that to be on the table. That 2025 salary will likely vest, raising the dead money hit even further up to $86.6 million after 2024. However, from 2026-2028 the Broncos have far more flexibility to move on if desired. Therefore, I think Klis is accurate in suggesting that the lion’s share of this contract happens in the first four seasons.

League comparison
Average Per Year (APY)

At a new money APY at $49 million, Wilson is second only to Aaron Rodgers among quarterbacks (and the entire league). Once Murray signed his contract for $46.1 million, I opined that Wilson could not practically be extended for less than $48.2 million APY. My guess at a floor in this regard differed by just $800,000.

Guarantees

Wilson did very well for himself in the full guarantees department. I opined that at a minimum he’d have to beat Murray’s $103 million in this regard, but I guessed that he would only barely do so. This $124 million in full guarantees is head and shoulders above all other contracts except for the perverse anomaly that is Deshaun Watson’s contract. Vested guarantees, on the other hand, was about where I expected in just being a shade above Murray.

Cash flow

Wilson ranks either first or second in the first four years of the contract as a matter of running cash flows. He is only $2 million short of Dak Prescott’s Year 1 total of $75 million, and less than a million under Rodgers in Year 3. In turn, he leads Murray in Years 2 and 4 by differences of $4.735 million and $10.85 million. All of Wilson’s running cash flows exceed what I expected in my opinion.

My opinion

As I think you may have already inferred, this contract beat my expectations of what Wilson could get, especially right now, before he has even taken a snap for the Broncos. The cash flow and full guarantees in particular is very strong, two metrics that are quite important but get hidden too often. At the same time, this contract is not outlandish. The Broncos clearly made an affirmative effort to get this contract done before the regular season. Aggressive, but not reckless, as George Paton would say. Doing so may have been the key to getting a deal done now, as I thought it would have been in Wilson’s best interest to wait until 2023. Nonetheless, I see this contract as fair for both sides.

Getting a deal done now is also advantageous for the Broncos in that they can use seven seasons, instead of six or five, to distribute the cap dollars of Wilson’s contract. This creates flexibility for the Broncos to extend other players (such as Dalton Risner, Dre’Mont Jones, or Bradley Chubb) or to even pursue some external major free agent moves if unexpected holes in the roster arise.

Finally, this extension will put pressure on other quarterbacks in the league who have their own extension windows open or upcoming. All eyes will now be on Lamar Jackson, whose negotiations have been a bit mysterious thus far, and come 2023, Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert will first become eligible for extensions of their own. All three of these players and their applicable agents and other advisors will look at Wilson’s new contract as a landmark.

https://contracts.thinair.football/2...nsion-details/

Oh, and don't forget perhaps the sweetest one of them all:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Andy Reid is a very good coach with some major flaws (game management, an aversion to running the ball, often fails to make good adjustments after his opening script runs out). He wins a lot of regular season games and gets his team high seeds in the playoffs, but he gets outcoached a lot once he's in the playoffs.

Denver has:

A more talented team
A much better GM
A bottomless bag of cash

How's that checklist of advantages Denver has over KC going for ya these days?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by PHOG

Well, if he meant the hopes and dreams of Denver fans and the short and long term prospects of any Broncos success he's not wrong.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by JimNasium

For that, he needs to be fired twice.

Probably should've been a 1st trimester abortion. Ya know. Just to be safe. Can't have too many Hacketts out there derailing NFL offenses.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Stay the course JohnnyHammersticks. Just remember how big of dicks they were during the 4 Manning years. They were entitled ****s, and this is their payback. Except this is gonna last a lot ****ing longer than those 4 Manning years where they went 1-1 in SBs. Mahomes will likely have more SB rings than their whole franchise before they make the playoffs again.

I'm having this engraved in solid gold and hanging it over my office desk so I see it almost every day of my life.

Feeling sorry for those obnoxious, entitled assholes....what on earth got into me?!? After the way they treated us?!?

What they're getting right now isn't even revenge or vengeance. It's justice. It's what they deserve. They realistically have zero hope until around 2028 at the earliest. It's not like they're going to be good the first season after Mr. Unlimited retires. That's when their rebuild begins. But hopefully they sell him the team and he plays until he's 50.

[gold_and_red]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

More? You want more? YOU GOT MORE!

In just hours after Russell Wilson signing that extension...









Oh, and don't forget perhaps the sweetest one of them all:



How's that checklist of advantages Denver has over KC going for ya these days?

Knowmo for Darwin Award!

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Stay the course JohnnyHammersticks. Just remember how big of dicks they were during the 4 Manning years. They were entitled ****s, and this is their payback. Except this is gonna last a lot ****ing longer than those 4 Manning years where they went 1-1 in SBs. Mahomes will likely have more SB rings than their whole franchise before they make the playoffs again.

Exactly! Even the "cool" Mule Tools were total entitled pricks and rubbed our noses in shit every chance they got. So **** them and their shit team. They deserve exactly what they have now. They deserve to suck for a football eternity, with no end in sight. Could not have happened to a more deserving fan base...Let's ride!

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

More? You want more? YOU GOT MORE!

[Coochie liquor]

Anyone who thinks they might start to feel sorry for these Dungver turds. Just enter this thread!!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...=152650&page=7

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

NFL released top 10 Pro Bowl voting by position. Only Bronco to make list is no longer a Bronco: Bradley Chubb is No. 8 at OLB. #9sports

— Mike Klis (@mikeklis) November 28, 2022

“Loaded” Top 5 roster.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by tredadda

“Loaded” Top 5 roster.

Let's ride!

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Seattle has now edged KC for #1 in points per play. With a journeyman QB.

Holy shit....what an epic failure of a trade (for one side).

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Seattle has now edged KC for #1 in points per play. With a journeyman QB.

Holy shit....what an epic failure of a trade (for one side).

No DonkTards here pounding their chests about it anymore.

[TEX]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Russell! THANK YOU for agreeing to go to Denver! May you celebrate MANY more birthdays there!

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by TEX

No DonkTards here pounding their chests about it anymore.

It's odd that none of them just want to talk football all of a sudden. Must be on vacation

[Mr Ev]

Originally Posted by FlaChief58

It's odd that none of them just want to talk football all of a sudden. Must be on vacation

New to board, getting the vibe down. I hope I can contribute.

I grew up in Denver, family is from KC, the main reason I hate the Broncos is because of how entitled their fan base. Always has been. To this day, there are guys I know that ignore the stats and won’t acknowledge that KC has the head to head record against them. I remember, probably 2005ish, Vic Lombardi talking a big game before the Chiefs beat them. I emailed him after asking what happened and he responded like a petulant sore loser child. No dialogue, no credit given, just, “I’m taking my ball and going home.”