Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 365

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-19-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I took that comment as referring to KU or KSU moving to a better and more stable conference, not only the SEC. If Big Ten or PAC came calling during this recent realignment craze, KU or KSU would not turn it down.

That's true, but it's easy for me to envision each scenario, and i'd hate either the Pac-12 or the Big 10.

I'd rather the Big XII remain viable and for K-State to stay in it.

track · 10-19-2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I took that comment as referring to KU or KSU moving to a better and more stable conference, not only the SEC. If Big Ten or PAC came calling during this recent realignment craze, KU or KSU would not turn it down.

If the big 10 or PAC came calling TODAY I believe they would turn it down...but there are those no doubt who might see it differently. Kansas ties to the old big six,eight and twelve run deep. If they had called last year or two months ago they would not have turned them down...they would have jumped at the opportunity...but the point is... times have changed fast in the conference realignment saga...most KSU and KU fans would view the SEC as a very last resort in my opinion. It's not that the SEC is a bad conference..it's a great conference...it's just historically and culturally a bad fit for Kansans...not as much so for missourians. JMO of course.

NewChief · 10-19-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

KK says Arkansas has been a nobody since they joined the SEC. Why wouldn't they like to join an easier conference like the Big 12?

Did he really say that?

Awesome.

Admittedly, we're just now experiencing, somewhat, consistent success in football (which I think we'll continue to experience as long as we have Petrino, love him or hate him). But we did, you know, win a national title in basketball while a member of the SEC. And won the SEC Championship another year. Of course, we've been down in basketball for a good long while now (which allowed our football to ascend), but I think b-ball is on the rebound here.

track · 10-19-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

That's true, but it's easy for me to envision each scenario, and i'd hate either the Pac-12 or the Big 10.

I'd rather the Big XII remain viable and for K-State to stay in it.

That's the way I would expect most KSU and KU fans to feel.

**Saul Good** · 10-19-2011, 07:45 AM

Kansas and KSU would be gone so fast it would make your head spin if the B1G, PAC, SEC, or ACC offered.

**Saul Good** · 10-19-2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

Did he really say that?

Awesome.

Admittedly, we're just now experiencing, somewhat, consistent success in football (which I think we'll continue to experience as long as we have Petrino, love him or hate him). But we did, you know, win a national title in basketball while a member of the SEC. And won the SEC Championship another year. Of course, we've been down in basketball for a good long while now (which allowed our football to ascend), but I think b-ball is on the rebound here.

I'm worried that, in the next hundred years, Mizzou will have more winless seasons than bowl game victories. That could never happen to a team in the Big XII except for when it happened to Kietzman's Wildcats over the last century which was just a century long fluke.

Frazod · 10-19-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I don't know, he's kinda grown on me.

Hopefully you can find some sort of ointment for that.

**Reaper16** · 10-19-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

“As a Kansas Citian, I’m conflicted. I understand how this hurts Kansas City. And that sucks! I don’t like that! You can be conflicted! Don’t let anybody else tell you how to feel! I think it’s great for Missouri that they’re moving on to the SEC. If I lived in St. Louis I wouldn’t give a damn about what was good for Kansas City. But I don’t. I live in Kansas City.”
Steven St. John, 810 AM

GH: SSJ’s point is exactly why the Big 12 is dysfunctional and much of our government doesn’t work – everybody is in it for what is best for them. It is not about what is best for me and my city. It should be what is best for my state, my country, my world – all the while understanding that sometimes my loss is our gain. Attend a school board meeting where they discuss re-districting if you want a firsthand view of this kind of small-minded me-first attitude.

lol wut

**Saul Good** · 10-19-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

If the longhorn network is such a big deal. Why isn't Florida's 100 million dollar deal with sun sports to broadcast their football games a big deal?

For starters, Sun Sports is not the Gator network. In addition to broadcasting professional sports, the network also partners with FSU and UCF. It also shows no live Gator football games.

In other words, its more bullshit journalism courtesy of Kevin Kietzman. Nothing new here.

**Saul Good** · 10-19-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

lol wut

Yeah, he kind of lost me there, too.

duncan_idaho · 10-19-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

Did he really say that?

Awesome.

Admittedly, we're just now experiencing, somewhat, consistent success in football (which I think we'll continue to experience as long as we have Petrino, love him or hate him). But we did, you know, win a national title in basketball while a member of the SEC. And won the SEC Championship another year. Of course, we've been down in basketball for a good long while now (which allowed our football to ascend), but I think b-ball is on the rebound here.

Yeah, he keeps pointing to Arkansas's losing record in SEC conference play since joining the SEC, but I think you guys are only like six or seven games under. And those include the disastrous attempts to find a coach between Hatfield and Houston Nutt.

Coaches are a critical factor in the SEC. You need a strong guy who recruits well and runs a consistent program. I think Pinkel resembles those remarks.

The key for Missouri over the next ten years is going to be hiring a equal or better football coach when Pinkel retires. Being in the SEC helps with prestige and it helps with having the money to spend on a high-profile guy.

The Tigers will have plenty to sell a big-time coach when the time comes (fourth-biggest state in the SEC, good local recruiting base, tradition of success recruiting Texas, $$$), and I'm confident the AD will continue to make the necessary commitment to its football coach.

In the Big 12, you're probably looking at bringing in someone like Dave Christensen. A head coach at a non-BCS league school.

In the SEC, you can still do that (for, say, Chris Peterson-level non-BCS coaches), or you can poach from other schools in BCS leagues. And if there's a hot assistant (ala Dan Mullen), you're a leading candidate there, too.

Pants · 10-19-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Pissed me off to no end. Mizzou was punished for playing in the Conference Championship. They won the Big 12 North, beat KU head to head on a neutral site, and KU got the bowl.

**** the Big 12. Good riddance.

MU fans are not butthurt.

**Saul Good** · 10-19-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

MU fans are not butthurt.

It's called getting the last laugh.

Your coach? Fired in disgrace.
Your AD? Resigned in disgrace.
Your team? Is a disgrace.
Your conference? Crumbling.

Congratulations on that Orange Bowl, though. I'm sure your MWC will be impressed.

Pants · 10-19-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's called getting the last laugh.

Your coach? Fired in disgrace.
Your AD? Resigned in disgrace.
Your team? Is a disgrace.
Your conference? Crumbling.

Congratulations on that Orange Bowl, though. I'm sure your MWC will be impressed.

What's called getting the last laugh? Acting butthurt?

Coach fired in disgrace.
AD resigned in disgrace.
Our trophy display is not a barren wasteland.
Team is a disgrace. A coaching hire away from being fixed.
Crumbling Conference? Not as long as UT and OU are here.

Thanks for the congratulations. No amount of your butthurt will ever take that trophy away from KU. MWC? Maybe and maybe not. I guess we'll see, but I'm not too worried about it right now.

Bambi · 10-19-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It's called getting the last laugh.

Your coach? Fired in disgrace.
Your AD? Resigned in disgrace.
Your team? Is a disgrace.
Your conference? Crumbling.

Congratulations on that Orange Bowl, though. I'm sure your MWC will be impressed.

oh man, I sucks to be a Kansas fan!

You've shown me the light.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1356966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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