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Old 07-14-2020, 11:51 AM  
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Veach is the best GM in the NFL
I don’t think it’s even debatable at this point
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:57 PM   #526
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"Andy Reid told Philadelphia, I want two offensive tackles, a quarterback, two pass rushers, two corners, and I'll figure the rest out."

Veach needs to get to work on defense.

As for the coaches, I can't say I'm happy with the positional coaching with the DL and LBs. Never any development there. Alot of missed assignments and generally being lost. There's been solid development at CB, that's about it. It is past time to cut some bait with guys like Daly and House (I never did particularly like his addition).
I remember they were touted as being so good that we'd have to worry about teams poaching them for their DC positions.




I don't think we have to worry about that.
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:59 PM   #527
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I remember they were touted as being so good that we'd have to worry about teams poaching them for their DC positions.




I don't think we have to worry about that.
Well Matt House has Hitchens and Neimann. Bolton has only played 5 games so he’s TBD (tho I like him) and Gay has barely played. You expect him to make shit talent like Neimann look great?

Daley has actually done well with Danna. He’s been a nice player. But Okafor’s old ass and Clark fading as well as Reed? I think that’s on the players more than coaching
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Old 10-18-2021, 10:01 AM   #528
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So do we need to bring up Veach’s picks since we win? Do we blow him his week?

Fenton was great, Humphrey was great, Smith was great, Bolton was good and his undrafted hit Wharton had a pick.

That’s how this works right? Best GM ever?
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Right.

The issue being marginal value over replacement.

Finding an average guard really isn't that difficult. Finding an average RB isn't. Finding an average QB or LT or WR is.

So if you spend a 1st rounder on a G or HB, to get marginal value over replacement, that guy needs to be damn good. Not so at QB, WR, T. Average versions of those guys are still damn valuable.

So if you're going to take a position that requires higher levels of play to become truly scarce, then that player needs to play at that higher level or you haven't gotten decent value over replacement on your pick.

I don't see what's objectionable about this as it seems fairly self-evident.
That's the crazy part, IMO. The Chiefs' current active skill guys, outside of Mahomes, are all THIRD-round picks or later, including several UDFAs.
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That's the crazy part, IMO. The Chiefs' current active skill guys, outside of Mahomes, are all THIRD-round picks or later, including several UDFAs.
It's a pretty good example of how not putting stock into positional value you can bite you in the ass.
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Veach's stars are emerging.
He needs to stay on the field when Ward returns.

Sneed and Ward are your starters in base, and Fenton comes in for nickel/dime and Sneed slides inside.
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He's such a DB. He's literally incapable of not wagging his finger if a ball falls incomplete lol
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This corner group is so good.

Sneed
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All can start if need be.

Your 5th corner was a 1st round pick.

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The issue with CEH was always gonna be just his physical ability. He produced at LSU on a crazy loaded offense that tossed it around alot.

But physically, what sets him apart from any of the other RB's drafted in the top 3 rounds of that draft?
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0 sacks for the 2nd straight week. Cant do this in the playoffs hopefully Jones stays 100% healthy
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Clark atleast was there yesterday and seemed to play with effort. So yeah, that's good.
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I'm not saying Daly should be free from criticism, but does anybody know how to really judge a position coach's value? Is it just by what he does with talent he's given? Is it results on the field?

Because if that's the case, then you know who you could make an argument for being a pretty good DL coach? Britt Reid. The guy was told to make it work with random off-the-street free agents like Kendall Reyes and nobodies like Rakeem Nunez-Roches, and he did a pretty good job of it. The DL during those early Sutton years wasn't perfect, but it did get production from the players that would cycle in and out for the most part.

And no, I'm not about to claim that Britt Reid was a great DL coach. Only that the real story on whether a position coach is any good or not is more complicated than just the results you see, even if there's been a regression.

I'm more inclined to believe that Spags or somebody from higher up gave the ok on Operation Jones-at-DE. I doubt that was Daly's brainchild even though it turned into his project. Some of the bullshit we've seen with lack of coordination/communication on defense seems to partly be because of players thinking too hard or forgetting details of complicated set-ups and coverages. And while it's Daly's job to coach and have players ready to play when their number is called, it's not the greatest if you've got an albatross like Frank Clark and your most productive edge guy is Mike Danna.
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0 sacks for the 2nd straight week. Cant do this in the playoffs hopefully Jones stays 100% healthy
I don’t think the sack totals tell the entire story.

The pass rush was noticeably better.
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It's a pretty good example of how not putting stock into positional value you can bite you in the ass.
I'm not sure about that. Reek and Kelce were 5th and 3rd round picks respectively. Hardman, Pringle, and Robinson are the next three in terms of receptions, with Hardman in the Top 50 in the NFL.

Our offense has been pretty good without a first-round receiver.
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