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Old 11-08-2022, 03:42 PM   #53776
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Old 11-08-2022, 03:47 PM   #53778
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I don’t think you understand what DPI is. When a defender turns around to look for the ball and the receiver stops, causing the DB to run into him because he isn’t looking at the WR but the ball, that is NOT DPI. Which is why it wasn’t called.

But I’m guessing you already know that and are just trolling.

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Old 11-08-2022, 03:47 PM   #53779
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Old 11-08-2022, 04:17 PM   #53782
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Do I see people still trying to make an argument that elway was an above-average quarterback? Really? How many times do I have to explain this?

Let's not even try to look at different eras. Let's compare that overrated sap to people who were playing directly in his time period.

Let's look at the 1983-1992 time period, that guy's first decade in the league. During that time period, there were 19 players who had more than 2,000 pass attempts. Those players were:

Dan Marino 5284
John Elway 4339
Warren Moon 4026
Dave Krieg 3797
Joe Montana 3470
Ken O'Brien 3465
Boomer Esiason 3378
Phil Simms 3264
Steve DeBerg 3206
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Jim Everett 3003
Neil Lomax 2712
Randall Cunningham 2641
Jay Schroeder 2411
Vinny Testaverde 2160
Dan Fouts 2071
Bobby Hebert 2055
Chris Miller 2023

Okay, let's look at where that failed Colts quarterback ranks among his peers:

Completion percentage: elway ranks 16th of 19.
Interception percentage: elways ranks 9th of 19.
Pick 6%: elway ranks 14th of 19.
Passer rating: elway ranks 17th of 19.
Sack percentage: elway ranks 11th of 19.
Sack yards per attempt: elway ranks 12th of 19.
Yards per completed pass: elway ranks 8th of 19.
Adjusted Net Yards per attempt (include impacts of sacks and interceptions): elway ranks 17th of 19.


Now, the only lame argument people make is "oooh, 4th quarter comebacks." He ranks 5th of the 19 in that category, so if you're not paying attention that might make him seem above average. But let's look at those 19 quarterbacks and assume that every single one of them flubbed up every 4th quarter comeback. How would the rankings change? If elway had flubbed every 4th quarter comeback, his teams would have still ranked 5th in win percentage. In other words, the odds are that they would have had exactly the same outcome with an average quarterback. And the reason for that is that they had an average quarterback. They were just a stronger than average team during that decade. So the whole 4th quarter comeback is nothing more than bad marketing of an average quarterback.

If you objectively look at the rankings, then elway was the equivalent of the 13th-best quarterback on that list. He was a Chris Miller/Jay Schroeder quarterback who was given the luxury of starting on a playoff-caliber team.
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Old 11-08-2022, 06:17 PM   #53783
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Do I see people still trying to make an argument that elway was an above-average quarterback? Really? How many times do I have to explain this?

Let's not even try to look at different eras. Let's compare that overrated sap to people who were playing directly in his time period.

Let's look at the 1983-1992 time period, that guy's first decade in the league. During that time period, there were 19 players who had more than 2,000 pass attempts. Those players were:

Dan Marino5284
John Elway4339
Warren Moon4026
Dave Krieg3797
Joe Montana3470
Ken O'Brien3465
Boomer Esiason3378
Phil Simms3264
Steve DeBerg3206
Jim Kelly3024
Bernie Kosar3012
Jim Everett3003
Neil Lomax2712
Randall Cunningham2641
Jay Schroeder2411
Vinny Testaverde2160
Dan Fouts2071
Bobby Hebert2055
Chris Miller2023

Okay, let's look at where that failed Colts quarterback ranks among his peers:

Completion percentage: elway ranks 16th of 19.
Interception percentage: elways ranks 9th of 19.
Pick 6%: elway ranks 14th of 19.
Passer rating: elway ranks 17th of 19.
Sack percentage: elway ranks 11th of 19.
Sack yards per attempt: elway ranks 12th of 19.
Yards per completed pass: elway ranks 8th of 19.
Adjusted Net Yards per attempt (include impacts of sacks and interceptions): elway ranks 17th of 19.


Now, the only lame argument people make is "oooh, 4th quarter comebacks." He ranks 5th of the 19 in that category, so if you're not paying attention that might make him seem above average. But let's look at those 19 quarterbacks and assume that every single one of them flubbed up every 4th quarter comeback. How would the rankings change? If elway had flubbed every 4th quarter comeback, his teams would have still ranked 5th in win percentage. In other words, the odds are that they would have had exactly the same outcome with an average quarterback. And the reason for that is that they had an average quarterback. They were just a stronger than average team during that decade. So the whole 4th quarter comeback is nothing more than bad marketing of an average quarterback.

If you objectively look at the rankings, then elway was the equivalent of the 13th-best quarterback on that list. He was a Chris Miller/Jay Schroeder quarterback who was given the luxury of starting on a playoff-caliber team.

Also, did you ever notice that he has a really strange skull shape and his teeth kind of bulge out so much that his face bears a striking resemblance to a horse’s face?
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Also, did you ever notice that he has a really strange skull shape and his teeth kind of bulge out so much that his face bears a striking resemblance to a horse’s face?
I've noticed that! I wondered if others have as well.
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That’s what happens when you go all in. Their strategy worked because Mahoney had a horrible 2nd half in the AFCCG and KC faced Buffalo in the divisional round vs AFCCG. Had the Rams faced KC or Buffalo they don’t get a ring and their all in strategy would look even worse. Stafford looks bad and they only have one true weapon left in the Kupp-board.
The league wasn’t going to allow the Rams to lose in their new expensive stadium. Bengals were inept, but had they been up to the task I’m positive the refs had orders. I’m glad we didn’t end up playing in back to back opponents stadiums. I just don’t think the league was gonna let that game go to the AFC.
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And so are their histories of openly traitorous behavior to the sport that we love.
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