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Discussion: All things Broncos.

**RealSNR** · 11-07-2022, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

First, the Allen/Mahomes thing is silly. I could just say "do you think Allen/Mahomes would survive the NFL of the 70s/80s"?

And, I'm not sugar coating or cherry picking stats. I'm addressing the one that was brought up - TDs.

The differences in the eras do matter when you're comparing careers.

Then it matters comparing Dawson to Elway, because Elway totally didn’t play in Dawson’s era, and it’s tough to know how he would have fared

Mile High Mania · 11-07-2022, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Then it matters comparing Dawson to Elway, because Elway totally didn’t play in Dawson’s era, and it’s tough to know how he would have fared

I never brought up any comparisons, you did that. I addressed that one as well. Yes, players before Elway threw for more TDs in a season than Elway.
- In the 1960s, it happened about 18 times in that decade.
- In the 1970s, it happened only 3 times during the decade... 15 times fewer than the prior decade.

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-07-2022, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

First, the Allen/Mahomes thing is silly. I could just say "do you think Allen/Mahomes would survive the NFL of the 70s/80s"?

And, I'm not sugar coating or cherry picking stats. I'm addressing the one that was brought up - TDs.

The differences in the eras do matter when you're comparing careers.

Why wouldn't they survive in the 70s/80s?

Mile High Mania · 11-07-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Why wouldn't they survive in the 70s/80s?

I'm not suggesting they would not... it was just a question, similar to yours.

Do you feel the style of play in the NFL regarding QBs, WRs, etc and what defenses can do are vastly different now than they were in the 60s-80s?

Mile High Mania · 11-07-2022, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Why wouldn't they survive in the 70s/80s?

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'm not suggesting they would not... it was just a question, similar to yours.

Do you feel the style of play in the NFL regarding QBs, WRs, etc and what defenses can do are vastly different now than they were in the 60s-80s?

Better question for you.

The Bills and Chiefs play next week and the NFL announces the defenses can play under the 1970s rule book. How different is that outcome?

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-07-2022, 01:19 PM

300 TDs in 16 seasons is pretty pathetic

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-07-2022, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Better question for you.

The Bills and Chiefs play next week and the NFL announces the defenses can play under the 1970s rule book. How different is that outcome?

Why are we even comparing Bills and Chiefs?

I don't know. I'm not omniscient. Why don't you tell me?

**New World Order** · 11-07-2022, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Better question for you.

The Bills and Chiefs play next week and the NFL announces the defenses can play under the 1970s rule book. How different is that outcome?

Probably 24-20ish

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-07-2022, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'm not suggesting they would not... it was just a question, similar to yours.

Do you feel the style of play in the NFL regarding QBs, WRs, etc and what defenses can do are vastly different now than they were in the 60s-80s?

Sure. Know what else is vastly different? Size, speed and strength of athletes. No one ever seems to acknowledge this for some reason.

If the suggestion is that Mahomes' body couldn't hold up in eras dominated by QBs like Montana and Lenny Dawson, I think that's funny.

tredadda · 11-07-2022, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

300 TDs in 16 seasons is pretty pathetic

I get it as I do not like Elway or the Broncos, but if you take out the modern day QB playing in an offense and QB favored league he is still #3 all time in TDs.

RedinTexas · 11-07-2022, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

I get it as I do not like Elway or the Broncos, but if you take out the modern day QB playing in an offense and QB favored league he is still #3 all time in TDs.

But how much did he benefit from the changing rules himself?

tredadda · 11-07-2022, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas

But how much did he benefit from the changing rules himself?

Not sure. It depends on when he retired (which I don’t know off the top of my head). I do know the rules changed significantly during the height of the Manning/Brady years and it shows as offenses have exploded since then.

ToxSocks · 11-07-2022, 01:49 PM

Horseface is the most over rated Qb in the history of the league.

Mile High Mania · 11-07-2022, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Sure. Know what else is vastly different? Size, speed and strength of athletes. No one ever seems to acknowledge this for some reason.

If the suggestion is that Mahomes' body couldn't hold up in eras dominated by QBs like Montana and Lenny Dawson, I think that's funny.

I'll just leave this where we have it... agree that size, speed of players, etc has evolved. I was referring to what the defense was allowed to do then compared to now.

I'm not here to change anyone's religion regarding Elway or other QBs.

Mile High Mania · 11-07-2022, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

300 TDs in 16 seasons is pretty pathetic

By today's standard, sure, you could run with that. It was #3 all time in 1998.

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