****Official 2022 Free Agency Megathread****

[The Franchise]

Legal tampering period begins tomorrow, March 14th. Throw all of your rumors and moves in here.

Obviously, for the people who hate mega threads, feel free to create a new thread for larger moves and anything Chiefs.

DANIEL SORENSEN IS NO LONGER ON THIS TEAM!

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And I'd be willing to bet neither of them play more than about 60% of the snaps, if that.

For some people, I think that would be considered a failure at worst and a push at best.

I think people think we're going to draft two guys and they're going to play all the time - that's just not going to happen unless they play a position like RT.

I want a rotation of good players at WR, DE, DT, CB, S. Pretty much everywhere.

We really need a #2/3 DE, 4th DE, 3rd safety, 3rd WR, 3rd DT and a 4th corner.

I like it that way bc you’re not relying completely on rookies year 1.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

If we get 2 starters, it's a very good draft especially if one of them is a DE. 3 would be amazing and would likely be an even better draft than last year given the positions we need to fill.

Getting 2-3 starters in a normal draft is a good draft, but in this specific draft (post Tyreek trade) we have roughly double the resources, so the bar goes up a bit. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we will get 4 quality starters from this draft class. 5 would be great. Anything more would be phenomenal.

Veach has proven to be one of the best, if not THE best at finding starters in the draft.

Bolton, Creed and Smith last year.

Clyde, WGJ, Sneed ……and incomplete on Niang the year before

Thornhill, Allegreti, Fenton …..and an incomplete on Saunders the year before that.

He only had 1 first round pick in those 3 draft COMBINED.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by kgrund

This is not the Royals. It would be great, but not vital that we win the lottery from the trade. Even if the draft return turns out fairly average of the trade we still could win another Super Bowl with the Mahomes.

Well-aware. Just using an anology most KC sports fans are aware of. When trading a superstar player you damn well better hit on the return.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Getting 2-3 starters in a normal draft is a good draft, but in this specific draft (post Tyreek trade) we have roughly double the resources, so the bar goes up a bit. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we will get 4 quality starters from this draft class. 5 would be great. Anything more would be phenomenal.

Veach has proven to be one of the best, if not THE best at finding starters in the draft.

Bolton, Creed and Smith last year.

Clyde, WGJ, Sneed ……and incomplete on Niang the year before

Thornhill, Allegreti, Fenton …..and an incomplete on Saunders the year before that.

He only had 1 first round pick in those 3 draft COMBINED.

Ding ding ding...spot on post right here.

We have two 1sts, two 2nds, two 3rds, two 4ths and several 7ths we can take fliers on. You only walk away with a couple starters from all of that it is a damn shame and dissappointment.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

How do you define "hits" though? That's the central issue.

To me a "hit" is getting a player who's as productive as the expectations of the round.

I would say a first round pick should be, at minimum, a starter or staple at their position with the upside of a HOF player the further up the round you go. They should be on the field for a majority of snaps and be solid and productive.

Second round is less polished and/or less upside. Might be a starter but not immediately. Might barely meet size or speed measurables. Pro bowl potential could still be there. Some level of risk.

Just take that and scale it to the round. You hit round 7 you're now in the range where the player isn't even likely to make the team. You just hope a 7th round pick can contribute in some way or on special teams.

If the player meets or exceeds the basic expectations of that round you did a good job - you had a good draft. You have a pick in each round and you end up with 3 starters you had a pretty good draft...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I want a rotation of good players at WR, DE, DT, CB, S. Pretty much everywhere.

We really need a #2/3 DE, 4th DE, 3rd safety, 3rd WR, 3rd DT and a 4th corner.

I like it that way bc you’re not relying completely on rookies year 1.

Exactly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Rausch

To me a "hit" is getting a player who's as productive as the expectations of the round.

I would say a first round pick should be, at minimum, a starter or staple at their position with the upside of a HOF player the further up the round you go. They should be on the field for a majority of snaps and be solid and productive.

Second round is less polished and/or less upside. Might be a starter but not immediately. Might barely meet size or speed measurables. Pro bowl potential could still be there. Some level of risk.

Just take that and scale it to the round. You hit round 7 you're now in the range where the player isn't even likely to make the team. You just hope a 7th round pick can contribute in some way or on special teams.

If the player meets or exceeds the basic expectations of that round you did a good job - you had a good draft. You have a pick in each round and you end up with 3 starters you had a pretty good draft...

That's just not true for every position though. A DE or DT, by nature of their position, isn't going to play as many snaps as an OG or OT, regardless of where they are drafted.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And I'd be willing to bet neither of them play more than about 60% of the snaps, if that.

For some people, I think that would be considered a failure at worst and a push at best.

I think people think we're going to draft two guys and they're going to play all the time - that's just not going to happen unless they play a position like RT.

Nobody ever has a terribly realistic expectation of draft picks.

2nd rounders become starters in the first 3 years of their deal something like 1/2 the time leaguewide. And it goes downhill fast from there.

This idea that you're supposed to draft Pro Bowlers with every 1st rounder, long-term starters with every 2nd rounder and immediate rotational contributors with every 3rd rounder is just....unfair.

It's not the way it works. It never has been. The draft just isn't that precise.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Exactly.

Which is why I don't want to trade up.

The roster depth has atrophied in a big way as we've been pushing our chips in on this stars/scrubs approach. It's time to start remedying that.

We're looking at potentially the deepest draft ever due to the extra year of COVID eligibility and we're sitting on 6 high value picks with another couple decent ones in the 4th.

There is no time like the present. But we aren't going to go 8 for 8 here. Frankly we'd be lucky to go 4 for 8. And if that's the case, let's make sure we at least stay at 8.

I don't want to be in a situation where we end up going 2 for 5 because we got aggressive and busted. We just need more solid football players than that all up and down this roster.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Getting 2-3 starters in a normal draft is a good draft, but in this specific draft (post Tyreek trade) we have roughly double the resources, so the bar goes up a bit. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we will get 4 quality starters from this draft class. 5 would be great. Anything more would be phenomenal.

Veach has proven to be one of the best, if not THE best at finding starters in the draft.

Bolton, Creed and Smith last year.

Clyde, WGJ, Sneed ……and incomplete on Niang the year before

Thornhill, Allegreti, Fenton …..and an incomplete on Saunders the year before that.

He only had 1 first round pick in those 3 draft COMBINED.

ya that's a good post, the only first round pick is a starter but also kinda a whiff considering Taylor was taken soon after that pick. But Veach has done a pretty damn good job with everything.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Bump

ya that's a good post, the only first round pick is a starter but also kinda a whiff considering Taylor was taken soon after that pick. But Veach has done a pretty damn good job with everything.

Mahomes told Veach that Clyde is who he preferred them to take.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Which is why I don't want to trade up.

The roster depth has atrophied in a big way as we've been pushing our chips in on this stars/scrubs approach. It's time to start remedying that.

We're looking at potentially the deepest draft ever due to the extra year of COVID eligibility and we're sitting on 6 high value picks with another couple decent ones in the 4th.

There is no time like the present. But we aren't going to go 8 for 8 here. Frankly we'd be lucky to go 4 for 8. And if that's the case, let's make sure we at least stay at 8.

I don't want to be in a situation where we end up going 2 for 5 because we got aggressive and busted. We just need more solid football players than that all up and down this roster.

This is why I still think they trade down with at least one of their firsts.

Quite possibly both.

This 2nd and third round is LIT. Specifically STACKED at the positions we need numbers at.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Mahomes told Veach that Clyde is who he preferred them to take.

Plus it was in EB's contract.

[Delano]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't want to be in a situation where we end up going 2 for 5 because we got aggressive and busted. We just need more solid football players than that all up and down this roster.

Hopefully most of them are former team captains too.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Delano

Hopefully most of them are former team captains too.

Hey Pioli!