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Old 07-08-2010, 08:18 PM  
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***The Official MMA Thread***
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:02 PM   #5296
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I think I'll put it this way. Of course they have better hand striking technique in boxing than in MMA. Thats just obvious.

I would also see better kicks in a Taekwondo tournament, better wrestling at an NCAA wrestling tournament, better jiu jitsu in a no-gi jiu jitsu grappling tournament, and better knees and elbows in a muay thai fight. In each of those cases you may see subtleties in technique that get lost in the more generalized world of MMA.

With the possible exception of muay thai, I'm just not interested in watching specialists demonstrate their mastery over a very specific, very narrow skill in the wider sport of MMA. I just want to see a fight, and thats what you get with MMA.
Exactly. Like I have said MMA is like a cake. You combine all the ingredients from various disciplines and have the ultimate fighter. Not the ultimate boxer, the ultimate karate fighter, or the ultimate wrestler.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:03 PM   #5297
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How well do you follow the sport? For years there has been controversy in judging where fighters working from their back have lost decisions to wrestlers who did very little with top position. This was because judges didn't know what they were watching and assumed the guy on his back was losing, simply because he was on his back most of the fight.

Wrestling is a great base for mma. Wrestlers are usually strong, understand body positioning and momentum, and most have the time have great endurance. They can usually survive their first few fights using simply their wrestling knowledge, while the train up other aspects of their game.

That being said though, a lot of the way the survive is safe, top control. The rules allow them to hold top position without doing much damage, as long as they appear 'active.' Adding more rules to help wrestlers will promote the practice even more, and in turn make the sport more boring. **** that in general.
You make some solid points. I guess I just can't stand seeing a guy lay there with his legs coiled-up and the other guy dancing around him. It's just boring to me.

And I'm a wrestler, so it's in my DNA that losers count lights.

It's all good, and even with the flaws I percieve there to be, it's x100000 better than traditional boxing. Neither is easy, anybody who thinks that is silly, but for 95% of the world who "want to see a fight," MMA is by far a better product.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:11 PM   #5298
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If you boxing fan boys are looking for a guy to hang your hat on that would have been Kermit Clinton. Elite boxer and also had a full ride wrestling scholarship to OSU. He would have been nasty in MMA with a year or two of training.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:16 PM   #5299
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Who is ready for Mcgregor/Aldo?

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Old 11-17-2015, 01:27 PM   #5300
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Who is ready for Mcgregor/Aldo?

Can't ****ing wait.
I have not been more excited for a fight in a while.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:33 PM   #5301
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Who is ready for Mcgregor/Aldo?

Can't ****ing wait.
Should be fun. I think Aldos brutal kicks are the difference
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:46 PM   #5302
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Who is ready for Mcgregor/Aldo?

Can't ****ing wait.
DUDE! I can't ****ing wait even MORE THAN YOU!

Mendez...with VERY short notice...stepped in and beat his ass for 1.99 rounds. yeah then he gassed out...but he BEAT THAT BITCHES ASS! if he gets a rematch....with a FULL training camp......oh my damn.
I absolutely cannot WAIT to see this punk lose. is there a bigger prick in all of professional sports? no idea how Faber maintains his composure with this lippy bitch running his mouth all the time.

I think Aldo will destroy him.....that is my hope.
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You make some solid points. I guess I just can't stand seeing a guy lay there with his legs coiled-up and the other guy dancing around him. It's just boring to me.

And I'm a wrestler, so it's in my DNA that losers count lights.

It's all good, and even with the flaws I percieve there to be, it's x100000 better than traditional boxing. Neither is easy, anybody who thinks that is silly, but for 95% of the world who "want to see a fight," MMA is by far a better product.
I agree that it's a more complete fight.

Also, it's natural to watch a fight and assume the guy on bottom is losing. However, in MMA, the guy on the bottom can be doing a ton more work, and as someone mentioned above, some fighter even prefer fighting from their backs.

A lot of the problems in MMA stem from the judging. The problem us that the sport is so young, that the judges really have no idea what they're watching. As the sport matures, that will as well, I assume. My hope is that eventually, former mixed martial artists and trainers start making their way to the judging tables. Once people who understand the sport are the ones judging the sport, things will get better quickly.
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Old 11-17-2015, 02:19 PM   #5304
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I agree that it's a more complete fight.

Also, it's natural to watch a fight and assume the guy on bottom is losing. However, in MMA, the guy on the bottom can be doing a ton more work, and as someone mentioned above, some fighter even prefer fighting from their backs.

A lot of the problems in MMA stem from the judging. The problem us that the sport is so young, that the judges really have no idea what they're watching. As the sport matures, that will as well, I assume. My hope is that eventually, former mixed martial artists and trainers start making their way to the judging tables. Once people who understand the sport are the ones judging the sport, things will get better quickly.
Some of the most egregiously bad judges who don't know a damn thing about grappling and submissions are slowly being weeded out, but its still at a point where you really need to finish your fight.
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Do you mean Kermit Cintron? I was a big fan of his and thought he had good skills and power to do something, then ran into Margarito. Still had a good career, but not as dominate as I hoped he would be. Thinking back now, with the accusations against Margarito and his gloves, makes you wonder.
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I agree that it's a more complete fight.

Also, it's natural to watch a fight and assume the guy on bottom is losing. However, in MMA, the guy on the bottom can be doing a ton more work, and as someone mentioned above, some fighter even prefer fighting from their backs.

A lot of the problems in MMA stem from the judging. The problem us that the sport is so young, that the judges really have no idea what they're watching. As the sport matures, that will as well, I assume. My hope is that eventually, former mixed martial artists and trainers start making their way to the judging tables. Once people who understand the sport are the ones judging the sport, things will get better quickly.
Pride had it right. They need to eliminate the round by round scoring. GSP/Hendricks and Bones/Gus are 2 examples of where a guy win 3 of the 5 battles but lost the war.
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Do you mean Kermit Cintron? I was a big fan of his and thought he had good skills and power to do something, then ran into Margarito. Still had a good career, but not as dominate as I hoped he would be. Thinking back now, with the accusations against Margarito and his gloves, makes you wonder.
Yeah..lol. auto correct. A few years learning BJJ and kicks he is a top MMA guy.
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Who believes Mcgregor will take it?
He could, his hands are heavy enough, but man people are really selling Aldo short in a big way right now.
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He could, his hands are heavy enough, but man people are really selling Aldo short in a big way right now.

He has a much better chance at beating Aldo than Edgar imo.

I dont think he has a shot to beat Frankie.
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