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Old 04-01-2022, 02:24 PM   #5281
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For sure, but it's probably best to have more realistic expectations. Drafts like last year don't happen every year, even for the best GM's.
Ehhh last year we didnt even have a pick until #58 and Veach turned it into three studs. We have four picks inside the top 63 this year and plenty of ammunition in later rounds to move up if they choose. It is an extremely important draft I suppose I have high expectations.
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:25 PM   #5282
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I mean, we should probably define "starter" because Bolton only played 58% of the snaps last year and we all consider him a starter.
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:26 PM   #5283
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If last years draft is the measuring stick people are gonna be disappointed

If you can get 2-3 players from each draft you’re fine
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:27 PM   #5284
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Ehhh last year we didnt even have a pick until #58 and Veach turned it into three studs. We have four picks inside the top 63 this year and plenty of ammunition in later rounds to move up if they choose. It is an extremely important draft I suppose I have high expectations.
Two of those guys play on the offensive line where there's no sub packages or player rotation, that's a big part of why they were "starters".

As I mentioned in my previous post, Bolton only played 58% of the snap last year. He's not really a "starter" and I think that kind of contribution is more realistic for anybody we draft, especially at WR and DE.
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:29 PM   #5285
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If we trade for Bradberry....then our best shot at rookies starting are DE and our 3rd safety (if we draft one high).

Most people forget that Spags doesn't really give rookies a ton of snaps right off the bat.
He’s also never had a first rd pick here to plug into his defense. The pandemic hurt guys like Willie Gay as well.

Fenton, Thornhill and Sneed got some good PT their rookie seasons
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Let me ask it another way:

The Bills last year took Rousseau and Basham. Rousseau played about half of their total defensive snaps and Basham about 40%. They combined for 7 sacks.

By most accounts, the Bills did good drafting those 2. Would you consider that good? Because I think that's precisely the kind of scenario we're looking at.
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Bolton, Humphrey and Smith were all named to the Pro Football Writers All Rookie team. Veach didnt trade one of the most dynamic wide receivers ever for a damn box of chocolates. Make no mistake Veach has to nail this draft. I expect some misses but with all the draft capital I also expect several hits.
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They're going to get Bradberry IMO. And they'll likely fill that other DE spot with TWO draftees rather than just one.
Yeah I think we draft 2 DE’s. One with one of our three picks in the top 50 and then one in the third rd like Isaiah Thomas
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Bolton, Humphrey and Smith were all named to the Pro Football Writers All Rookie team. Veach didnt trade one of the most dynamic wide receivers ever for a damn box of chocolates. Make no mistake Veach has to nail this draft. I expect some misses but with all the draft capital I also expect several hits.
How do you define "hits" though? That's the central issue.
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Yeah I think we draft 2 DE’s. One with one of our three picks in the top 50 and then one in the third rd like Isaiah Thomas
And I'd be willing to bet neither of them play more than about 60% of the snaps, if that.

For some people, I think that would be considered a failure at worst and a push at best.

I think people think we're going to draft two guys and they're going to play all the time - that's just not going to happen unless they play a position like RT.
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Ehhh last year we didnt even have a pick until #58 and Veach turned it into three studs. We have four picks inside the top 63 this year and plenty of ammunition in later rounds to move up if they choose. It is an extremely important draft I suppose I have high expectations.
If we get 2 starters, it's a very good draft especially if one of them is a DE. 3 would be amazing and would likely be an even better draft than last year given the positions we need to fill.
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And I'd be willing to bet neither of them play more than about 60% of the snaps, if that.

For some people, I think that would be considered a failure at worst and a push at best.

I think people think we're going to draft two guys and they're going to play all the time - that's just not going to happen unless they play a position like RT.
I expect KC will use a rotation at DE. Clark is a starter but guys like Danna, a rookie (or two) and maybe Ingram will also get snaps at DE.
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I expect KC will use a rotation at DE. Clark is a starter but guys like Danna, a rookie (or two) and maybe Ingram will also get snaps at DE.
Right.

And they'll all finish with 3-6 sacks or so.

Are people going to be happy with that?

Because that's EXACTLY what I expect to happen.
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How do you define "hits" though? That's the central issue.
I mean I dont have a scientific definition for you. A bonified and unquestioned starter in the NFL. Im not saying I expect 4 dudes showing up on the all rookie team. Its a huge draft though and we better make some hay. Think Zach Greinke trade for the Royals and turning that into Cain and Escobar two pillars in a World Series run. You better cash in on the Tyreek trade with those picks.
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I mean I dont have a scientific definition for you. A bonified and unquestioned starter in the NFL. Im not saying I expect 4 dudes showing up on the all rookie team. Its a huge draft though and we better make some hay. Think Zach Greinke trade for the Royals and turning that into Cain and Escobar two pillars in a World Series run. You better cash in on the Tyreek trade with those picks.
This is not the Royals. It would be great, but not vital that we win the lottery from the trade. Even if the draft return turns out fairly average of the trade we still could win another Super Bowl with the Mahomes.
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