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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-12-2025, 10:17 AM   #511
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Quite honestly if I’m Veach I’m tagging Trey. The FA market sucks absolute ass this year. It’s terrible. Trey is by far the best OL available and it’s not even remotely close. And yes I think someone will trade with us for him (hello Chicago!).

We can easily create $50 million in cap space if we want to and the first year cap hit for signed players will be low anyway.

Yeah. Get your 3rd rd pick this year if you can
Can't pay Ronnie Stanley on day 1 of free agency if Smith is taking up over $20M in cap.
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Old 02-12-2025, 10:20 AM   #512
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You find a team like Atlanta who has major salary cap issues and has a significant investment in a left tackle, Jake Matthews, with a left handed QB.

That is a potential trade opportunity.
Why do they trade him? Just because Penix is left handed doesn’t mean you downgrade the LT position, especially if Penix (who had known injury issues in college) were to go down. That would be like KC trading Schwartz because Mahomes was right handed.
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Old 02-12-2025, 10:21 AM   #513
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This team cannot afford to throw picks away. Full stop.
Exactly.

People seem to be forgetting we only have 7 picks, have a ton of FA holes and only have 2 WR under contract in 2025.
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Old 02-12-2025, 10:28 AM   #514
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Exactly.

People seem to be forgetting we only have 7 picks, have a ton of FA holes and only have 2 WR under contract in 2025.
For WR's I would think Hollywood would want to come back and cheap as he didn't really show anything in his limited 2024/2025 appearances, Hopkins I think would want to stay at some kind of value price as he wants a ring, Juju I think would stay. I don't think the market appetite is great for any of these guys honestly. These guys all want to play w/ Pat as well.

I honestly cannot wait/hope to see Brown, Worthy, and Rashee on the field at the same time.
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They're not gonna tag a guard.

No chance.
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Old 02-12-2025, 10:30 AM   #516
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For WR's I would think Hollywood would want to come back and cheap as he didn't really show anything in his limited 2024/2025 appearances, Hopkins I think would want to stay at some kind of value price as he wants a ring, Juju I think would stay. I don't think the market appetite is great for any of these guys honestly. These guys all want to play w/ Pat as well.

I honestly cannot wait/hope to see Brown, Worthy, and Rashee on the field at the same time.
Brown is just gonna get hurt again.
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Can't pay Ronnie Stanley on day 1 of free agency if Smith is taking up over $20M in cap.
I will be shocked if Ronnie Stanley or Alaric Jackson are available in March.

And even if they somehow are, I’d be extremely weary bc the Rams and Ravens are not stupid franchise.
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At this point I don’t give a shit about 1st rd picks. I’d gladly sell 31, 66 and next years first if it got us to the teens. I’d even add a 2026 4th if need be.

I just don’t care anymore. This is mentally ****ing our QB in his prime. It has to be fixed at all costs.

7 LT’s since Eric Fisher. No wonder Mahomes is playing like a game manager
KC needs an answer for the LT position and Veach will address it like he always has when he identifies a weakness. But your solution is a very knee jerk reaction. In a salary cap era the key to building and sustaining a dynasty is finding and filling holes without giving up more than necessary for one position.

Giving up what you suggest just to get into the teens, you better be sure that you are drafting the next Joe Thomas and not the next Alex Leatherwood.
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I will be shocked if Ronnie Stanley or Alaric Jackson are available in March.

And even if they somehow are, I’d be extremely weary bc the Rams and Ravens are not stupid franchise.
Fair enough. I still wouldn't tag Smith. I don't think there's any scenario I would unless they already have a trade ready the minute he's tagged.
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Brown is just gonna get hurt again.
Take a look at the FA WR. It’s terrible.

Outside of Tee Higgins it’s Stefon Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, Keenan Allen, Amari Cooper, Diontae Johnson, Robert Woods and a 29 year old Chris Godwin coming off a major injury.

It’s bad. Really bad.

Would gladly take Hollywood back. He was cheap this years not gonna cost a lot.
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It’s not necessarily bad luck as much as it’s KC being the victim of their own success. They haven’t drafted lower than 28 in the Mahomes era. Cornerstone LTs are always drafted before them unless someone hits a gold mine later.
The Chiefs are a victim of designed parity. If you are good you have less opportunities at the good players. You have to work harder for diamonds in the ruff and pinch pennies. I'd still take it over baseballs system.
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The Chiefs are a victim of designed parity. If you are good you have less opportunities at the good players. You have to work harder for diamonds in the ruff and pinch pennies. I'd still take it over baseballs system.
Exactly. The last time KC had a true cornerstone LT was Fisher. How did KC end up with him?
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Take a look at the FA WR. It’s terrible.

Outside of Tee Higgins it’s Stefon Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, Keenan Allen, Amari Cooper, Diontae Johnson, Robert Woods and a 29 year old Chris Godwin coming off a major injury.

It’s bad. Really bad.

Would gladly take Hollywood back. He was cheap this years not gonna cost a lot.
I don't care. Can't make plays from the tub. Bring him back or don't, don't care. He's a non-factor.
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You can't just say DRAFT A FIRST ROUND TACKLE.
I'm no draftnik but everything I'm hearing is there no sure thing at LT, even if you are picking first.

So we are left with FAm overpaying for years or trading with someone who are not resigning their LT next year so are open for a trade. They dont want to pay him because he sucks and they want an upgrade?

We have shit options. None are guaranteed. Thats just our situation. Not anyone's fault other than the design of the NFL.
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I'm in the camp of trading draft picks for a vet LT but there is one thing that I haven't seen mention that might make getting a vet or a blue chip LT in the draft even harder..

Every GM watched that Super Bowl. If they have playoff/Super Bowl aspirations they've just seen what losing a LT could mean for their QB or what will happen to them in the playoffs if they don't draft an LT. This game is probably going to make it harder for us to trade for a vet and is likely to move the decent OTs up the draft.
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