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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:13 PM   #5221
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I'm ecstatic that it's the SEC and not the B1G. They can take their junior membership and shove it up their cornholes.

The rust belt is dying, and the Southeast is the future.
Solid point about the junior membership. But the B1G is just a better fit in my mind. Geographically it's no contest, the B1G schools are more similar institutions, the culture is more comparable, etc.

I know people (myself included) are still jaded after we got left at the altar last year, but it doesn't diminish the fact that Mizzou looks a hell of a lot more like your average B1G school than your average SEC school.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:14 PM   #5222
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I hope it's an early game. I hear it gets really cold up there, like Wisconsin cold.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:14 PM   #5223
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I feel like someone should invent a gesture to describe posts like this. It could involve a hand and a face. We could call it palmfacing.
I had a WTF moment, and then decided to just leave it alone.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:15 PM   #5224
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Solid point about the junior membership. But the B1G is just a better fit in my mind. Geographically it's no contest, the B1G schools are more similar institutions, the culture is more comparable, etc.

I know people (myself included) are still jaded after we got left at the altar last year, but it doesn't diminish the fact that Mizzou looks a hell of a lot more like your average B1G school than your average SEC school.
I'll take the conference that has won 6 of the last 5 national titles.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:15 PM   #5225
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I'll take the conference that has won 6 of the last 5 national titles.
So you see Missouri competing for NC's in the SEC?
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:16 PM   #5226
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:16 PM   #5227
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So you see Missouri competing for NC's in the SEC?
Not right away, but that should be the goal.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:18 PM   #5228
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Pretty predictable.

The Big 12 is now the more stable conference. There's more money to be made in the Big 12 anyway. Etc....
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:19 PM   #5229
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Not right away, but that should be the goal.
Should always be the goal.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:24 PM   #5230
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Baby steps. Try winning the Big XII first. It's fun.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:25 PM   #5231
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Around here, the goal seems to be to play shittier and shittier competition so that you can win as many meaningless games as possible or to just focus on an inferior sport that your team is good at.
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Solid point about the junior membership. But the B1G is just a better fit in my mind. Geographically it's no contest, the B1G schools are more similar institutions, the culture is more comparable, etc.

I know people (myself included) are still jaded after we got left at the altar last year, but it doesn't diminish the fact that Mizzou looks a hell of a lot more like your average B1G school than your average SEC school.
If the B1G wanted us, they'd have made a move by now.

I feel like the B1G people are like Adam Sandler during the "D.enise Show" skits on Saturday Night Live.



BRIAN YOU'RE EMBARRASSING THE FAMILY!

She's not coming back. But the SEC makes a pretty passable Nicole Kidman in this analogy.
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If the B1G wanted us, they'd have made a move by now.

I feel like the B1G people are like Adam Sandler during the "D.enise Show" skits on Saturday Night Live.



BRIAN YOU'RE EMBARRASSING THE FAMILY!

She's not coming back. But the SEC makes a pretty passable Nicole Kidman in this analogy.
The B1G offered us a junior membership.
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