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Old 03-13-2022, 10:55 AM  
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Old 04-01-2022, 08:20 AM   #5206
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I’d be okay with:

Cross, S
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Andersen was who I had in mind there as well. Such a unique combination of strength/speed. And at worst you figure he's a special team's monster.

And we're off to the races!

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Now we just need CD to build my mock probability simulator so we can run the numbers, see how likely this whole thing is and then start our coup. I'll let you have Veach's office if I can have his parking spot.
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Old 04-01-2022, 08:23 AM   #5207
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I 100% believe that we’re going TE in the 3rd round.
I would so much rather see what Fortson can do in that role than spend a 3rd on a TE.
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Andersen was who I had in mind there as well. Such a unique combination of strength/speed. And at worst you figure he's a special team's monster.

And we're off to the races!

Ojabo
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Now we just need CD to build my mock probability simulator so we can run the numbers, see how likely this whole thing is and then start our coup. I'll let you have Veach's office if I can have his parking spot.
I don’t know how anyone could look at that mock and not see the holes that it’s filled and the talent that’s been added to the roster.

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Old 04-01-2022, 08:24 AM   #5209
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I struggle with the need. I actually think that is an area we are set. To me, we have far bigger needs in other areas. If you have little belief in Gray and Forston, than I see it.
The big issues I have is roster space.

We're not carrying 5 TEs and the Chiefs really seem to like Bell.

So with Kelce, Gray, Fortson and Bell, is there room for someone like Dulcich?

My argument would be yes, but that it would come at Bell's expense. Fortson is a pure 'move' TE and Gray is something of poor man's Kelce in that I don't know that he's all that useful for sub-packages (he has no standout skill) but has no real obvious weaknesses either. So he's more of a conventional backup.

Bell is really just a blocking TE so like Fortson, he's more of a sub-package guy.

So ultimately one of two things would happen - Dulcich would prove to be a good enough blocker to cost Bell his slot OR just a well-rounded enough player to cost Gray is.

I mean they don't have a ton of capital in Gray. And apart from being a camp legend, he wasn't exactly a massive contributor. I could see them moving on from him if someone came in who shows the tools to be a genuine starting caliber player someday.

I'm just not seeing that with Gray.
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I struggle with the need. I actually think that is an area we are set. To me, we have far bigger needs in other areas. If you have little belief in Gray and Forston, than I see it.
Fortson is coming off an ACL tear. Does he have potential? Yes. Will he ever get there? We don’t know.

Gray was a 5th round pick. If you believe in his potential…then you should also believe that DE isn’t a HUGE need because we have Kaindoh. He has potential…he’s just raw.

The fact is…Kelce is getting older and if we can lessen his snaps so that he’s not getting the shit beat out of him…then we need to do it. Drafting a TE in the 3rd isn’t a waste if you believe that he has a skill set you can utilize.
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Old 04-01-2022, 08:29 AM   #5211
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Fortson is coming off an ACL tear. Does he have potential? Yes. Will he ever get there? We don’t know.

Gray was a 5th round pick. If you believe in his potential…then you should also believe that DE isn’t a HUGE need because we have Kaindoh. He has potential…he’s just raw.

The fact is…Kelce is getting older and if we can lessen his snaps so that he’s not getting the shit beat out of him…then we need to do it. Drafting a TE in the 3rd isn’t a waste if you believe that he has a skill set you can utilize.
Exactly. Fortson is expendable.

You need Bell so that he can run the QB sneaks!
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Exactly. Fortson is expendable.

You need Bell so that he can run the QB sneaks!
If anyone is expendable in my mind…it’s Bell.
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Kelce showed some small signs of slowing down last year. I think you’ll see some more this year. He’s probably got 2 years left here.

Idk though. Surely they won’t pay a 34 year old TE $16.4 million?
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If anyone is expendable in my mind…it’s Bell.
Reality is they're all expendable outside of Kelce.
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Reality is they're all expendable outside of Kelce.
Pretty much. Gray wasn’t some 2nd or 3rd round pick like he was talked about. He’s more than likely just a backup who won’t kill you if he has to take some snaps.

And Fortson is a great story and I’m rooting for him but he’s an UDFA that made a position change.
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Old 04-01-2022, 08:37 AM   #5216
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Fortson is coming off an ACL tear.
You want to draft Williams and Ojabo who tore their ACLs like yesterday but you're worried about Fortson who did the same in October!?

I'm joking.

I don't entirely dispute the logic of it but I'm not convinced that's the way they're going to be leaning this year given the TE room they have. If I'm the Chiefs, I'd want to see how Fortson and Grey develop this year and then make TE more of a priority the following offseason if they don't like what they've seen.
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If anyone is expendable in my mind…it’s Bell.
it was a joke.

I think your must haves are Kelce and Gray.
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Fortson is coming off an ACL tear. Does he have potential? Yes. Will he ever get there? We don’t know.

Gray was a 5th round pick. If you believe in his potential…then you should also believe that DE isn’t a HUGE need because we have Kaindoh. He has potential…he’s just raw.

The fact is…Kelce is getting older and if we can lessen his snaps so that he’s not getting the shit beat out of him…then we need to do it. Drafting a TE in the 3rd isn’t a waste if you believe that he has a skill set you can utilize.
Fortson was an Achilles tear wasnt it? A tad more serious than an acl and we saw how an acl has affected Thornhill for two years now. A UDFA guy who was on the practice squad two years in a row coming off a torn Achilles doesnt feel like a lock for the roster, let a lone day 1. People dont like to hear it around here but its reality.
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Fortson was an Achilles tear wasnt it? A tad more serious than an acl and we saw how an acl has affected Thornhill for two years now. A UDFA guy who was on the practice squad two years in a row coming off a torn Achilles doesnt feel like a lock for the roster, let a lone day 1. People dont like to hear it around here but its reality.
Was it an Achilles? Now I have to go check.
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Dulcich in the 3rd would start to get really serious consideration from me if he fell that far.

The way he moves in space gives me SERIOUS Kelce vibes. Extremely fluid; looks much smoother than he should for a guy that size.

No, I don't think he has the raw athleticism of a guy like McBride but we're not talking about a WR here. For a TE, fluidity in space is far more important and that's where Kelce's been killing guys for years.

It's an area that I think Dulcich excels at.
Dulcich looks super smooth with a high ceiling.

If the Chiefs are enamored, the presence of Gray, Bell, and Fortson won’t dissuade them.
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