Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 346

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

silver5liter · 05-30-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Looks like there could be a delay for sure. Line of storms will go through there in the next couple of hours. It's headed that way:

Its kind of headed north east too. So it will probably be there a while once it hits.

**petegz28** · 05-30-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tboss27

He was talking about Maloof's comments yesterday, not GB's today.

Meh...my bad, guess I misunderstood

stonedstooge · 05-30-2013, 04:26 PM

Perhaps George can get them to stop the stupid ****ing hand gestures. LeadHead Ned sure doesn't seem to think it makes us look like fools

**DeezNutz** · 05-30-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I think you're blowing it up into something it isn't....just sayin

If HRs cause hitters to change their approach, they're shitty baseball players to begin with.

BlackHelicopters · 05-30-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Perhaps George can get them to stop the stupid ****ing hand gestures. LeadHead Ned sure doesn't seem to think it makes us look like fools

What is that anyway?

**petegz28** · 05-30-2013, 04:27 PM

Seitzer laying some wood down.....

Chris Meck · 05-30-2013, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Love for Brett is causing posters to defend an asinine comment.

No, your inability to consider what he might have meant by the comment is causing posters to disagree with you.

**petegz28** · 05-30-2013, 04:29 PM

question to Seitzer..."Is Ned hard enough on these guys?"

Seitzer: "I don't think so, sometimes"

went on to not totally rake Ned but we get the message

stonedstooge · 05-30-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

What is that anyway?

I think it started when we played the White Sux and were beating the shit out of them. Frenchy claimed it was over his love for John Cena, but the reliever dude from the Sux did the face wipe last year and I think they were mocking him. Now it's evolved into each player having his own signal. Of course we don't get to see much of it since hardly anyone gets on base anymore

BlackHelicopters · 05-30-2013, 04:40 PM

Which is worse? Daily dry rectal digital exams or being a KC sports fan?

Chiefless · 05-30-2013, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And a gap-to-gap approach is absolutely sound. That's not at all a slap-hitter's approach to baseball.

Quite the contrary. HRs are generally mistakes, the by-products of a high-quality approach.

nailed it.

**petegz28** · 05-30-2013, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And a gap-to-gap approach is absolutely sound. That's not at all a slap-hitter's approach to baseball.

Quite the contrary. HRs are generally mistakes, the by-products of a high-quality approach.

agreed

KC_Connection · 05-30-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Hail Mary by DM to try to save his miserable job.

Reminds me of when JP Ricciardi brought back Cito Gaston in a similar last ditch effort to play to the Jays fans' nostalgic sensibilities and extend his own job. That ended poorly to say the least...for both of them.

Stanley Nickels · 05-30-2013, 05:42 PM

Sorry to jump on so late... where are the quotes in the past couple pages coming from? Was there a presser?

**lewdog** · 05-30-2013, 06:05 PM

So any consensus on yay or nay for Brett being the hitting coach?

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