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Old 04-08-2014, 09:58 AM  
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Last thread has well over 10,000 replies. Its body is breaking down like The Undertaker's. Seeing as we might have crossed the threshold into a new era in the business, here's a fresh new thread.

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Old 08-07-2024, 12:41 PM   #5146
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Oof, hard disagree on Rollins having mic skills. He floundered for literal years trying to find a compelling character and eventually settled on completely superficial crap like dressing like a Prince cosplayer and having a song that's fun to sing along to for the crowds.

He's constantly playing second, third, or even fourth fiddle in his feuds nowadays.
We'll just have to hard disagree then...I see it differently.

If we are going to bag on people because of their attire you really have to discount half of the roster champions...and many of the best from the past.

Heck...go back and look at Austin's early version of himself...Stunning Steve or whatever name he would use in that era. He was not good on the mic...at all.

I see it as Rollins learning to find his groove much like LA Knight has after living in obscurity in the lesser know wrestling organizations.
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Old 08-07-2024, 12:46 PM   #5147
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Oof, hard disagree on Rollins having mic skills. He floundered for literal years trying to find a compelling character and eventually settled on completely superficial crap like dressing like a Prince cosplayer and having a song that's fun to sing along to for the crowds.

He's constantly playing second, third, or even fourth fiddle in his feuds nowadays.
Perfect example of a dude who would be a midcarder 20 years ago.
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Old 08-07-2024, 12:47 PM   #5148
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I thought heel Bret in 97 was frickin awesome.
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Old 08-07-2024, 12:50 PM   #5149
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I'm not bagging on him because of his attire. I'm baggage by on him because his character almost entirely revolves around how goofy his attire can be and his song.
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:17 PM   #5150
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I thought heel Bret in 97 was frickin awesome.
Best work by far that Bret did on the microphone.

Too bad he didn't stay in WWF during the Attitude Era. Would have been epic to see him vs. Angle, Stone Cold, The Rock, Mick Foley.
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:20 PM   #5151
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Wasn't that whole situation effectively the catalyst for the attitude era? Without that you don't get heel Vince McMahon on TV.
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:33 PM   #5152
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Honestly.....Triple H was at his best when paired with Michaels....
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:40 PM   #5153
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Wasn't that whole situation effectively the catalyst for the attitude era? Without that you don't get heel Vince McMahon on TV.
Yeah...the Montreal Screwjob led to the "Bret screwed Bret" promo and the birth of the Mr. Mahon character.

WCW fumbled Bret so bad it's not even funny...not that one should be surprised but still.
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:56 PM   #5154
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Best work by far that Bret did on the microphone.

Too bad he didn't stay in WWF during the Attitude Era. Would have been epic to see him vs. Angle, Stone Cold, The Rock, Mick Foley.
Imagine if he did stay in the WWF and heel Bret ended up teaming with heel Vince to take on Stone Cold.

That would have been epic
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:57 PM   #5155
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Wasn't that whole situation effectively the catalyst for the attitude era? Without that you don't get heel Vince McMahon on TV.
Yes, but with Stone Cold's anti-authority rise I think we get it anyway.
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:05 PM   #5156
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That's the point. Anti authority Austin doesn't become nearly as iconic without Vince McMahon as the foil.
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:30 PM   #5157
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Best work by far that Bret did on the microphone.

Too bad he didn't stay in WWF during the Attitude Era. Would have been epic to see him vs. Angle, Stone Cold, The Rock, Mick Foley.
Austin vs Bret at WM13 is my favorite match ever. Such perfection.
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That's the point. Anti authority Austin doesn't become nearly as iconic without Vince McMahon as the foil.
He was already feuding with Slaughter when he was the Commish.

In due time it most likely he would have feuded with the boss.
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Old 08-08-2024, 10:39 AM   #5159
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Every one of those guys, except for Angle and HHH, had a LOT of wrestling experience either in the territories, or at least WCW before getting to the WWE and had to learn a LOT the hard way early in their careers. HHH was with the WCW briefly before going to WWE, and Angle is just a natural. Taker and Austin started in the WCCW in Dallas and worked their way up from there. The Rock started out in Memphis (I think). I'm old enough to remember when HBK was in a tag team with Marty Jannetty in Kansas City.
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Every one of those guys, except for Angle and HHH, had a LOT of wrestling experience either in the territories, or at least WCW before getting to the WWE and had to learn a LOT the hard way early in their careers. HHH was with the WCW briefly before going to WWE, and Angle is just a natural. Taker and Austin started in the WCCW in Dallas and worked their way up from there. The Rock started out in Memphis (I think). I'm old enough to remember when HBK was in a tag team with Marty Jannetty in Kansas City.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didnt WWE essentially buy up all of the territories? The biggest issue for the longest time before AEW is there was no alternative to WWE.
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