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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 10-11-2022, 05:55 PM   #51421
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There are a TON of teams in the 2-3 and 3-2 range. The end of the regular season is a long ways away. The Broncos will be in the hunt at the end of the year and the Jets will be the Jets. Just watch.
In the hunt for what? A new QB?
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There are a TON of teams in the 2-3 and 3-2 range. The end of the regular season is a long ways away. The Broncos will be in the hunt at the end of the year and the Jets will be the Jets. Just watch.
I actually enjoy the fact you still have hope. It’s going to make the rest of the season even more painful.
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Old 10-11-2022, 05:57 PM   #51423
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Wouldn’t shock me if Russ gets hurt now that Bolles is out. He was already on pace for a career high in being sacked (54) and he’s already hurt.

Now his OL is substantially worse. This could end up badly for Denver
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Old 10-11-2022, 06:02 PM   #51424
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Hard to think of a QB situation worse than Denver right now. Sure Atlanta, Indy and Carolina are currently worse, but at least they aren’t bound to any of those guys.

The Broncos are stuck with a below average QB until after 2025. They are screwed
Yea, I'd rather be those teams with my 1st round pick and the flexibility to move on from my current QB.
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Old 10-11-2022, 06:02 PM   #51425
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There are a TON of teams in the 2-3 and 3-2 range. The end of the regular season is a long ways away. The Broncos will be in the hunt at the end of the year and the Jets will be the Jets. Just watch.
AFC teams better than Denver

KC (miles above)
LA
LV
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NYJ
Indy
Tenn
Jax
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Cincinnati
Cleveland

Teams even to Denver
Houston
Pittsburgh

Team Denver is better than
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Old 10-11-2022, 06:03 PM   #51426
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He hasn't turned into Matt Ryan, but he isn't as fast and he isn't as slippery as he used to be.

Defenses have gotten better at not letting him scramble to his right.

Once QB's reach a certain age, they either get reluctant to take/risk hits or they get knocked out of the league.

As I said, I expect Russ and the offense to do better but a Mahomes should be able to gracefully turn his game into a Rodgers that only scrambles occasionally with age, or a better version yet.

I don't see that with Russ.

Lamar's passing has improved dramatically, but I don't see it happening with him either.
This is huge. Any right-handed QB is going to struggle running to the left (unless they are a contortionist). It's simple enough to plan plays to get the QB moving right, but all we do is drop straight back and let the defense dictate where Wilson moves. Incompetency, thy name is Hackett.
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Old 10-11-2022, 06:05 PM   #51427
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KC (miles above)
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Cleveland

Teams even to Denver
Houston
Pittsburgh

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Nah. Houston plays more disciplined football than Denver. They look like a decently coached team that lacks blue chip talent. I'd put them above Denver.

And Pittsburgh has more playmakers and with their rookie Qb, have nowhere to go but up.
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Hard to think of a QB situation worse than Denver right now. Sure Atlanta, Indy and Carolina are currently worse, but at least they aren’t bound to any of those guys.

The Broncos are stuck with a below average QB until after 2025. They are screwed
You think Wilson‘s better than Mayfield right now?
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This is huge. Any right-handed QB is going to struggle running to the left (unless they are a contortionist). It's simple enough to plan plays to get the QB moving right, but all we do is drop straight back and let the defense dictate where Wilson moves. Incompetency, thy name is Hackett.
You can do a planned bootleg against your throwing motion, but the QB needs more time/space unless you can contort like Mahomes.

But I was thinking more of the unplanned scrambles of being careful with rushing lanes and/or a spy to make sure you don't let him go right if he leaves the pocket.

But sure, they could run plays to his strength more.
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The Broncos weren’t in the hunt at full strength, but now they’re in the hunt without their LT, RB, 2nd best corner, best safety and best edge rusher.

Can’t imagine what Mack and Bosa would have done to Russack. He’d probably have been in the fetal position on every pass play. Run, run, fetal, punt. Mack alone might crush his soul.
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Oh well, at least it will give me something to laugh at . . . . .
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Denver losing Bolles...who was decent, not great is a death blow.

Wilson needs time...and already holds the ball too long...always has. He isn't a great pocket QB...it's not what he does.

The paper-thin roster couldn't afford to lose the few quality players it had...
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Mack and Bosa against that shit OL against a QB with no clue right now? 2-4
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