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Old 04-24-2025, 09:40 PM  
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Old 04-25-2025, 08:18 AM   #496
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Also a bit telling that Morris isn't even in the discussion according to Reid. Seems to have been relegated to OT4 overnight.
OT4 might be too high for him.
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Old 04-25-2025, 08:18 AM   #497
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My dude. Your insight is much appreciated.
Dunno what the folks that are reaming Veach and co are expecting. It's one thing to disagree with the pick and be concerned over his medicals (which I do and I am) while citing studies about it. But to have these temper tantrums and call Veach and Burkholder idiots while they've actually worked with Simmons and actually have in depth medicals is something else entirely.
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Old 04-25-2025, 08:21 AM   #498
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I'm still skeptical of the Simmons pick, but the Chiefs having some of the best injury luck in the NFL (knock on wood) since 2013 says he's pretty damn good.

I can only think of one caatastrophic injury year that befell this team in that span, and that was 2014.

Not even the Eagles can say that. And compare that to a bad injury team like the Chargers. They've had like 8 horrible injury seasons since then lol
Trey Smith paid off, big time.

They used the same strategy here, but the medicals must have been more positive, or clear with Simmons, and other teams must have had him on the 2nd round radar, and Veach had to act.

But, for anyone who is upset or thinks it's too risky, who would you have taken?

I am happy with the pick, but if I was going to take a slight reach at 31 or 32, I have to say that I would love to see what Spags could do with Emmanwori, or maybe Mike Green (couldn't really be worse than FAU but is more versatile) and on offense I may have taken Arroyo/Taylor.

You don't really get 1st round talent that late in the draft usually, and we got a Top 15 talent. I hope he gets healthy, and it works out, but if it doesn't, did we really lose anything?
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This will happen...in 2026.

We aren't moving Taylor and his 20 million to the bench
Is it any better to put Moore and his $21 million guaranteed on the bench? They can get out of Taylor's deal next year and absolutely will do so. They will not hesitate to sit him if Simmons/Moore is the best combo, which it likely will be.

Unless he decides to get back to his Jacksonville form, he's likely sitting on the bench.
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One thing I find interesting is how literally all of the Chiefs Twitter/media guys love this pick. Whether it's Swanson, Lane, Harms, etc. they all pounded the table for Simmons.
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Old 04-25-2025, 08:25 AM   #501
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Yeah, I don't get the hand wringing, because if we can absorb the complete failure of CEH as a first round back, and the failure of FAU for 2 years at a position of need, then we can take a chance on a guy who has potential top 15 talent.

I don't follow what most posters say about FAU, but I wonder if the same people insisting he isn't a bust, are the same people upset about this pick.
This is ultimately where I have to get to - the team has blown a couple first round picks in the last 5 years and it's been fine.

But every time they do they get just a little closer to the pack. To where a few weeks of scattershot play cost them a bye or HFA and now they have to work just a little harder to get to where they want to be.

And as HoF throughput like Jones and Kelce age out while the home run 2022 draft class gets more expensive, they get closer and closer to being ordinary + Pat Mahomes.

Which is still a damn nice place to be. But it makes your margins week to week and season that much tighter.
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Old 04-25-2025, 08:27 AM   #502
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Either way this thread is going to be bumped a lot over the next few years.
I hope it's because the true believers want to dunk on all of those fools who didn't believe Simmons could be the first player in NFL history to be good after this injury. Just shame them right into the ground for their foolish ways!
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There is absolutely the high risk/reward factor...that is why he lasted to 32.

If...and that's a big "if" he pans out, it's doing the impossible. Getting a franchise LT without moving up.

They did more research on his patellar than anyone here...with updates in medicine and his age...who knows. They know where his recovery is at.

It'll be interesting to track the players they passed on in a year or two...

Wait and see for me...I guess they obviously thought it was worth a calculated risk. Have to factor in what becomes of the 5th round pick too..
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Welp....

I guess you could look at it as....if you wanted them to take a chance to get a high end LT this is about the only way to do that, outside of a big trade up.
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I think if they can get him and Moore both starting at tackle at a quality level, this will be delightful.

I am also very glad we did not move up and lose other picks to make this gamble. In addition, I am glad we didn't draft some ****ing limpdick Guard.
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