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Old 03-22-2024, 08:53 PM  
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Old 03-23-2024, 09:36 AM   #496
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Straight up salary dump by Veachy.

Clearly the team values adding 4-5 high quality bargain FAs over Sneed.
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Old 03-23-2024, 09:36 AM   #497
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Not being sarcastic.... Do you really think without Sneed, or at least the Sneed we saw last year, this will be top 5 D?
I do.

Sneed's a really good player, no doubt. We still have a loaded secondary, and IF they bring back Danna (or a comp player), the only big missing piece is the one spot where we're stacked with good young talent.

Combined with an offense that just added a legit WR, year two of Rice, which should have the defense in better position than they often did this year, and yeah, I think it's a top 5 unit.
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Old 03-23-2024, 09:38 AM   #498
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Hate to see Sneed go. He's earned a chance at generational wealth for his family and I'm happy for him. That being said, I hope this is not a bad transaction. BV has been amazingly astute up to this point, but every time you throw the dice, occasionally you'll get snake eyes. We let Thornhill Fuller and Ward leave as FAs, and overcame all that just fine. You can't have an all-pro at every position. The economics of the NFL doesn't allow it. You know other teams covet ALL of our starting players because they have the rings. Teams that are trying to compete want guys who have been through the big battles. I also wish BV would have sent him to the NFC, but maybe that just wasn't possible. There's still a lot of wheeling and dealing to go before August training camp. Let's hold judgement until we see the whole picture.
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Old 03-23-2024, 09:39 AM   #499
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I'm not pleased with the return for the trade, but is anyone shocked that no other team out there wanted to give up big compensation to a team coming off back-to-back Super Bowl wins for a player that ultimately ended up getting the most guaranteed money EVER at his position by a wide margin (and that's not even bringing up potential health/knee questions)? Someone said it earlier in the thread - the Chiefs chose Chris Jones over LJ here, and it really is as simple as that, especially considering the glaring upgrades/replacements that are needed around their generational franchise QB.

As much as we all collectively loved Sneed and saw his value, and wanted the compensation to match his obvious value, this was inevitable. Especially when they obviously decided he wasn't going to play on the tag (or didn't want to play him on the tag).

I wish Sneed all the best moving forward and hope he enjoys that bag of money in a state with no tax on personal income. Get some pick sixes against Richardson, Lawrence, and Stroud. But may he shit his drawers against Rice and Brown.
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Old 03-23-2024, 09:40 AM   #500
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Hate to see Sneed go. He's earned a chance at generational wealth for his family and I'm happy for him. That being said, I hope this is not a bad transaction. BV has been amazingly astute up to this point, but every time you throw the dice, occasionally you'll get snake eyes. We let Thornhill Fuller and Ward leave as FAs, and overcame all that just fine. You can't have an all-pro at every position. The economics of the NFL doesn't allow it. You know other teams covet ALL of our starting players because they have the rings. Teams that are trying to compete want guys who have been through the big battles. I also wish BV would have sent him to the NFC, but maybe that just wasn't possible. There's still a lot of wheeling and dealing to go before August training camp. Let's hold judgement until we see the whole picture.
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Hate to see Sneed go. He's earned a chance at generational wealth for his family and I'm happy for him. That being said, I hope this is not a bad transaction. BV has been amazingly astute up to this point, but every time you throw the dice, occasionally you'll get snake eyes. We let Thornhill Fuller and Ward leave as FAs, and overcame all that just fine. You can't have an all-pro at every position. The economics of the NFL doesn't allow it. You know other teams covet ALL of our starting players because they have the rings. Teams that are trying to compete want guys who have been through the big battles. I also wish BV would have sent him to the NFC, but maybe that just wasn't possible. There's still a lot of wheeling and dealing to go before August training camp. Let's hold judgement until we see the whole picture.
How quick we forget..... Everyone or most posters were up in arms over the Hill trade. No way you make that trade? Trade the #1 receiver? Never under any circumstances. How'd that deal work out? 2 straight ****ing SB's. Also one of the best corners in the game. $30 million in cap space.

Let him cook. Veach has earned the right to get the benefit of doubt.
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I guess we're about to put that statement to the test.


I'm not pleased with the return for the trade, but is anyone shocked that no other team out there wanted to give up big compensation to a team coming off back-to-back Super Bowl wins for a player that ultimately ended up getting the most guaranteed money EVER at his position by a wide margin (and that's not even bringing up potential health/knee questions)? Someone said it earlier in the thread - the Chiefs chose Chris Jones over LJ here, and it really is as simple as that, especially considering the glaring upgrades/replacements that are needed around their generational franchise QB.

As much as we all collectively loved Sneed and saw his value, and wanted the compensation to match his obvious value, this was inevitable. Especially when they obviously decided he wasn't going to play on the tag (or didn't want to play him on the tag).

I wish Sneed all the best moving forward and hope he enjoys that bag of money in a state with no tax on personal income. Get some pick sixes against Richardson, Lawrence, and Stroud. But may he shit his drawers against Rice and Brown.
Yes clearly it was a matter of choosing Stone Cold or Sneed. It's gonna be interesting to see how we move forward. I think it's a bit presumptive to assume all of Creed, Smith, Bolton, and Reed are getting extensions. We'll probably get a better idea of soon of what they're thinking and if they are gonna target a corner early. Any discussion about how good the defense is gonna look hasn't had any mentions of FAU included....
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This move is about future team building and this years draft. Trading Sneed will allow Veach to sign a veteran OT and maybe another WR. That allows him to not be backed into a corner at draft time and he can select the BPA. He can also start discussing an extension for Creed and Bolton.
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Yes clearly it was a matter of choosing Stone Cold or Sneed. It's gonna be interesting to see how we move forward. I think it's a bit presumptive to assume all of Creed, Smith, Bolton, and Reed are getting extensions. We'll probably get a better idea of soon of what they're thinking and if they are gonna target a corner early. Any discussion about how good the defense is gonna look hasn't had any mentions of FAU included....
"A lockdown corner takes away a receiver. A dominant pass rusher takes away all of the receivers."
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No. If the Chiefs utilize the new cap space $ and upgrade LT (through a variety of ways until August), strengthen the RB room, maybe acquire a vet WR, etc, they WILL three-peat. The additional cap space may also enhance the chances of extending other players they wish to keep next year and beyond, could likely result in a run equal to the Patriots. Less emotion, more 3-D chess.
I hope you’re right but…shut down corners don’t grow on trees. Veach is the best GM in the NFL so I’ll remain optimistic about our situation. The bottom line is how many more points we score and how many more points we give up unless we find another shutdown corner in the draft.
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How quick we forget..... Everyone or most posters were up in arms over the Hill trade. No way you make that trade? Trade the #1 receiver? Never under any circumstances. How'd that deal work out? 2 straight ****ing SB's. Also one of the best corners in the game. $30 million in cap space.

Let him cook. Veach has earned the right to get the benefit of doubt.
They got much better compensation on the Tyreek deal.
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I hope you’re right but…shut down corners don’t grow on trees. Veach is the best GM in the NFL so I’ll remain optimistic about our situation. The bottom line is how many more points we score and how many more points we give up unless we find another shutdown corner in the draft.
McDuffie is a shut down corner too. Hard to keep two on your roster and QB1 and the current most dominant DL.
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Echoing staylor’s earlier post. The Titans 3rd is gonna be far closer to a 2nd than 4th. First year team in a division with all winning teams last year and a tough schedule.

They will be a mid 3rd at worst IMO

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