Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 337

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

ChiefsCountry · 10-16-2011, 08:28 PM

If Mizzou stays the Big 12 is going back to 12, if they leave its staying at 10.

**alnorth** · 10-16-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

How come nobody is interested in getting UCF or/and USF to join the Big 12? Those are huge schools in terms of enrollment, and you bring the Big 12 to Florida and the Eastern Market. I would think it is a no brainer. It's not that long of a flight from Texas and they could split Texas and OU into different divisions.

Louisville, BYU, and WVU are all superior (and closer) options. They'd probably also rather have Cinci.

BWillie · 10-16-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Louisville, BYU, and WVU are all superior (and closer) options. They'd probably also rather have Cinci.

I get that, but why wouldn't they be candidates at least.

Iowa State
Kansas
K-State
Oklahoma
Louisville
BYU
Cincinnati
Oklahoma State

Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
West Virginia
South Florida
Central Florida
Memphis? Southern Miss? Boise State? Houston? SMU?

Don't really know a 16th team, and I know this would never happen, but I think it would be cool.

**alnorth** · 10-16-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

I get that, but why wouldn't they be candidates at least.

Candidates? OK, sure, they are candidates. However, unless the Big 12 decides to expand to 14 or 16, or unless a couple of the above better options says no, they will never progress to a serious stage.

**Saul Good** · 10-16-2011, 08:52 PM

Teams from Florida, Utah, Iowa, and West Virginia in the same conference sounds cool to you?

Morgantown to Provo is just a shade under a 4000 mile round trip.

BWillie · 10-16-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Teams from Florida, Utah, Iowa, and West Virginia in the same conference sounds cool to you?

Morgantown to Provo is just a shade under a 4000 mile round trip.

Yep. That is the way things are heading. NYC to South FLA is pretty far too. W Virginia actually seems a little bit out of the way, but it's a great football program. I know the Big 12 has a different agenda than I do, but I would think that would be a fun conference.

Reerun_KC · 10-16-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Teams from Florida, Utah, Iowa, and West Virginia in the same conference sounds cool to you?

Morgantown to Provo is just a shade under a 4000 mile round trip.

Which in a 737 isnt really that bad...

**Saul Good** · 10-16-2011, 08:56 PM

How about in a bus?

**Saul Good** · 10-16-2011, 09:00 PM

4000 miles is about 70 hours by bus. That's a rough trip for the field hockey team.

tk13 · 10-16-2011, 09:00 PM

That's why the Mountain West/C-USA thing was football only. That could be a real adventure with all the non-revenue sports.

BillSelfsTrophycase · 10-16-2011, 09:36 PM

Missouri kicks ass

**Saul Good** · 10-17-2011, 08:01 AM

Gabe DeArmond is saying that 2 independent sources have both told him that the SEC move is imminent. Supposedly, there is a BOC meeting this week, and the withdrawl (he called it a conditional withdrawl) would be announced after the meeting.

Said that the timeline has been very carefully orchestrated by yhe SEC and MU for legal purposes. Take it FWIW. He's generally pretty measured, but he said that his source told him for the first time that the move is 100%.

evenfall · 10-17-2011, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Gabe DeArmond is saying that 2 independent sources have both told him that the SEC move is imminent. Supposedly, there is a BOC meeting this week, and the withdrawl (he called it a conditional withdrawl) would be announced after the meeting.

Said that the timeline has been very carefully orchestrated by yhe SEC and MU for legal purposes. Take it FWIW. He's generally pretty measured, but he said that his source told him for the first time that the move is 100%.

Oh snap

Hope it's for real this time.

**Saul Good** · 10-17-2011, 08:41 AM

Hearing that Louisville expects to join if Mizzou leaves.

eazyb81 · 10-17-2011, 08:48 AM

WE GONE.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Teams from Florida, Utah, Iowa, and West Virginia in the same conference sounds cool to you? Morgantown to Provo is just a shade under a 4000 mile round trip. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	How about in a bus? __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	4000 miles is about 70 hours by bus. That's a rough trip for the field hockey team. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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10-17-2011, 08:01 AM	#5052
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Gabe DeArmond is saying that 2 independent sources have both told him that the SEC move is imminent. Supposedly, there is a BOC meeting this week, and the withdrawl (he called it a conditional withdrawl) would be announced after the meeting. Said that the timeline has been very carefully orchestrated by yhe SEC and MU for legal purposes. Take it FWIW. He's generally pretty measured, but he said that his source told him for the first time that the move is 100%. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Hearing that Louisville expects to join if Mizzou leaves. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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