***** Official '21/'22 KU Men's Basketball Repository Thread *****

[cmh6476]

The Team:

https://kuathletics.com/sports/mbball/roster/

The Schedule:

https://kuathletics.com/sports/mbball/schedule/

[Demonpenz]

Kelly Oubre

[KC_Connection]

Mario Chalmers.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJay23

I limit mine to who I really watched. Didn't really start watching until Roy and didn't start following carefully game by game until I went there for school (96/97).

I remember starting watching the games around kindergarten. I had speech classes with a big KU fan as my therapist when I was little. She helped me properly pronounce Ostertag lol

[Buehler445]

I'm going to have to think on getting it to 5.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

1. Sherron "Ain't No Seats" Collins
2. Thomas Robinson
3. Paul Pierce
4. Ochai Agbaji
5. Devonte Graham

[smithandrew051]

Here’s one.

What’s your All Bill Self Kansas Team? Roy Williams Kansas Team? Best players to make the best team, not the most accomplished. Assume everyone is healthy and playing at their college peak.

5 starters, 3 bench players

I’ll go first.

Bill Self (I really like the 4 out-1 in, so I’m going with that)

Starters:

Frank Mason
Mario Chalmers
Brandon Rush
Josh Jackson
Joel Embiid

Bench:
Devonte Graham
Marcus Morris
Udoka Azubuike

HM: Wayne Simien, Darrell Arthur, Cole Aldrich, Jeff Withey, Thomas Robinson, Sherron Collins, Ochai Agbaji

Roy:

Starters:

Jacque Vaughn
Kirk Hinrich
Paul Pierce
Nick Collison
Raef Lafrentz

Bench:
Jeff Boschee
Drew Gooden
Kenny Gregory

[Imon Yourside]

Julian Wright is probably my favorite but we've had so many.

[CoMoChief]

Dont think anyone is beating that All Roy team....sick.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Here’s one.

What’s your All Bill Self Kansas Team? Roy Williams Kansas Team? Best players to make the best team, not the most accomplished. Assume everyone is healthy and playing at their college peak.

5 starters, 3 bench players

I’ll go first.

Bill Self (I really like the 4 out-1 in, so I’m going with that)

Starters:

Frank Mason
Mario Chalmers
Brandon Rush
Josh Jackson
Joel Embiid

Bench:
Devonte Graham
Marcus Morris
Udoka Azubuike

HM: Wayne Simien, Darrell Arthur, Cole Aldrich, Jeff Withey, Thomas Robinson, Sherron Collins, Ochai Agbaji

Roy:

Starters:

Jacque Vaughn
Kirk Hinrich
Paul Pierce
Nick Collison
Raef Lafrentz

Bench:
Jeff Boschee
Drew Gooden
Kenny Gregory

I'd have to go with DA over JJ, move Graham into the starting PG spot over Mason, and move Sherron onto the bench over Mason. ALlso, I might move Ochai into the "4" spot as the starter if we are really going 4 out 1 in or replace Morris with Ochai.

No arguments on the Roy teams.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by DJay23

So who would everyone say is their favorite Jayhawk of all time? Favorite, top 3, top 5 top 10, whatever.

1. Sherron Collins
2. Frank Mason
3. Thomas Robinson
4. Wayne Simien
5. Raef LaFrentz

LaFrentz in today's game would be an amazing stretch 4. He averaged nearly one 3pt made per game in the NBA while taking about 3. Rarely shot 3's in college. Today that would be very different.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

I'd have to go with DA over JJ, move Graham into the starting PG spot over Mason, and move Sherron onto the bench over Mason. ALlso, I might move Ochai into the "4" spot as the starter if we are really going 4 out 1 in or replace Morris with Ochai.

No arguments on the Roy teams.

The Self Team is really tough, because we have so much depth at pretty much every spot.

Like you could make an argument for Aldrich, Withey, Embiid, or Doke at center and be correct.

I think Jackson is pretty much the perfect stretch 4. His only weakness was just some inconsistency from 3. I remember watching him defend like 5 different positions against Baylor. Arthur is probably the best pure 4 that we’ve had, and would probably be my starter in a more traditional lineup.

Sherron, Frank, and Devonte are really toss ups. Any 2 would be great. I leaned Frank, because he shot like 50% from 3 his senior year.

Leaving Ochai off was hard. I was trying not to show recency bias or overvalue him as tourney champion/MOP.

That Roy starting lineup is filthy.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

The Self Team is really tough, because we have so much depth at pretty much every spot.

Like you could make an argument for Aldrich, Withey, Embiid, or Doke at center and be correct.

I think Jackson is pretty much the perfect stretch 4. His only weakness was just some inconsistency from 3. I remember watching him defend like 5 different positions against Baylor. Arthur is probably the best pure 4 that we’ve had, and would probably be my starter in a more traditional lineup.

Sherron, Frank, and Devonte are really toss ups. Any 2 would be great. I leaned Frank, because he shot like 50% from 3 his senior year.

Leaving Ochai off was hard. I was trying not to show recency bias or overvalue him as tourney champion/MOP.

That Roy starting lineup is filthy.

Honestly, healthy Embiid is the only answer at C. He is head and shoulders better than those other guys, and all those other guys are amazing college players.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Honestly, healthy Embiid is the only answer at C. He is head and shoulders better than those other guys, and all those other guys are amazing college players.

I agree. If you have a perimeter loaded with shooters and guys who can score from anywhere, he would be absolutely dominant with space to operate around the basket. There just isn’t a college kid who can D him up 1-on-1.

That game at Iowa State was incredible. Niang looked helpless.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Here’s one.

What’s your All Bill Self Kansas Team? Roy Williams Kansas Team? Best players to make the best team, not the most accomplished. Assume everyone is healthy and playing at their college peak.

5 starters, 3 bench players

I’ll go first.

Bill Self (I really like the 4 out-1 in, so I’m going with that)

Starters:

Frank Mason
Mario Chalmers
Brandon Rush
Josh Jackson
Joel Embiid

Bench:
Devonte Graham
Marcus Morris
Udoka Azubuike

HM: Wayne Simien, Darrell Arthur, Cole Aldrich, Jeff Withey, Thomas Robinson, Sherron Collins, Ochai Agbaji

Roy:

Starters:

Jacque Vaughn
Kirk Hinrich
Paul Pierce
Nick Collison
Raef Lafrentz

Bench:
Jeff Boschee
Drew Gooden
Kenny Gregory

Hard to argue with Roy's team. I'm a sucker for Boschee, but objectively Vaughn is probably better.

On Self's team, I'm taking TRob at the 4 and I'll die on that hill. Maybe it's dumb, but I'll never forget how hard he played. Arthur might be the pick there, but I'm taking TRob.

I gotta put Sherron on the bench over Devante, but that leaves you pretty small at guard. Probably be fine. Rio can run the 3, probably fine. But as a thought experiment, stick Garrett in there on the bench. You could have a really REALLY **** you Defensive squad. If you put Rio at the 1, Garrett at the 2, Rush at the 3, TRob at 4, and Embiid at 5, you can roll out 5 stone cold stoppers with really good length everywhere. That's probably not as good of a team, but we haven't really seen Garrett at full power not need to be the initiator of offense. He's not the offensive monster Sherron was (Especially 40 minute Sherron), but you're not sagging off him, and man could he lock bitches down. You bring Garrett off the bench and say, "you're not scoring mother****er" would be horrifying.

I like Aldrich off the bench instead of Doke, because he was a more skilled big man, plus dude wasn't hurt. I don't think I could roll out 2 injury prone guys, even though Marcus could play the 5.

You're right. Self's run here is incredibly deep.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I agree. If you have a perimeter loaded with shooters and guys who can score from anywhere, he would be absolutely dominant with space to operate around the basket. There just isn’t a college kid who can D him up 1-on-1.

That game at Iowa State was incredible. Niang looked helpless.

Let's not forget that Niang is an NBA player. Dudes been in the league 6 years and put up 22 min/game for Philly this year.

Embiid is incredible.