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What you're really asking is, "why don't more American companies use V6 or Turbo 4-bangers in their sports cars?" Porsche Caymans don't have backseats. It's a Roadster, not a Coupe. BMW 4-Series coupes come in 2.0 4-Cyl and 3.0 V6 Configurations. If you want an small-motor, light weight car that you can throw around corners, Ford addressed that with the 4cyl Turbo Mustang. Your complaint isn't that Americans don't make awesome sport-coupes. Your complaint is that they don't put high performance, small displacement motors in their sports cars. Their small displacement variants are treated more as economy cars to help with EPA issues. Your BMW 4-series Coupe offers a 300HP V6 as its top engine choice, meanwhile, that's the economy version of a Mustang, Camaro or Challenger.
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BMW 430I Coupe: $45,000, 3,827lbs, 3.0L 300HP V6
Ford Mustang GT: $36,000, 3,705lbs, 5.0L 485HP V8
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Camaro probably needs a complete overall, like the Mustang received in 2015. The current rumors suggest that won't happen though. |
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In comparison to smaller, lighter cars it may not feel as light and feathery. But that's more of a driving feel thing than anything else. And quite frankly, i prefer heavier cars at higher speed freeway driving. Lighter cars feel like they bounce and flow with the road. Heavier cars feel firmly planted, even at 100mph.
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But you included the Cayman, which is a 2-seater. The Porsche Cayman is a roadster more than anything. And the lightweight, tight handling is a feature of a roadster.
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I didnt say anything about a Vette.
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Hmmm Isn't this an American coupe? Even though the rear window does not go down you call them coupes. Aren't they sedans????
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And before we get too far afield, my point is that there's really no good reason an American car builder can't make a really good sports coupe. It's not like they don't have the money or the technical capabilities. But it's like when I was in HS doing my homework, when I'd do the minimum effort to get a B. American car companies seem to be still operating as if they just want to get a B on their homework. |
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A roadster is a T-top or convertible by definition, IIRC. A hardtop version would be the coupe. |
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And I don't have any experience with this Caddy. Which one is it? |
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My 30 year old 500E (like it's sister the 300CE (coupe) 3200lb) are both heavy cars (3700Lbs) and at A new Z-28 Camaro weighs in at 3820lbs A New Nissan GT-R weighs, wait for it, oh it's 3933lbs Light and feathery my ass Quote:
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