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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
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OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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07-26-2017, 06:35 PM | #4966 |
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He'll be a fine pro, but his situation in college hardly demonstrated or showed him to be a gritty 4th quarter QB |
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07-26-2017, 06:41 PM | #4968 |
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You guys really overthink this. It's about leadership. It's not about making five pinpoint throws every time to win the game. Wentz executed an eight minute - 18 play drive to win a playoff game. It's the difference.
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And for all the college guys who won big games in the fashion you described in college, how many of those QBs ended up being terrible pro guys? Basically, I think you're overrating the "toughness" thing, particularly from college guys. Yeah, you want that trait in a pro QB, but you still gotta have high aptitude to get the job done. Watson has far more in common with Tim Tebow coming out of college than he does Jameis Winston. |
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07-26-2017, 08:03 PM | #4970 |
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Chiefs defense hands Mahomes a ball.
"Have an extra set of downs on us". "Time for another TD", says Mahomes. Chiefs defense hands Smith a ball. "Have an extra set of downs on us". "I'm pretty sure we can get 3", says Smith. And that concludes the lesson of the day.
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07-26-2017, 08:27 PM | #4972 |
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I made an analogy a month or so before the draft that described why I had Mahomes as QB1 as opposed to Watson, Trubisky, etc.
Hypothetically, lets say that Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers are A+ quarterbacks, Philip Rivers is a A-, Joe Flacco is a B-, Ryan Tannehill is a C, and Blake Bortles is a D-. To me, with guys like Watson and Trubisky, I saw their floor as somewhere in that D range, with ceilings in the B range. Mahomes on the other hand-- I believe has the rare A+ ceiling. Not saying he will get there, not saying that he won't. But I believe that he is physically capable-- more so than Watson or most QBs who are drafted. In the Chiefs case-- trading up 17 spots and giving up extra draft capital warrants a swing for the fence. To make a bold move like that, you need to be aiming big long-term. |
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07-26-2017, 08:56 PM | #4974 |
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Philip Rivers is overrated. He throws too many INTs to considered great IMO... He's above average but nothing more.
He's a hell of a competitor and when he gets hot he is as good as anyone but he takes too many chances which hurts his team in the turnover battle which is a very important stat when it comes to winning and losing games as we all know from the Marty years and more recently I would say from the conservative Alex Smith style of play years. You look at Brady, sure he throws a bunch of TDs but since he has become an elite QB his INTs are always low. Combine that with BBs defensive genius and the Pats are a top team every year. Rivers doesn't do his defense any favors when he throws 21 INTs in a season like he did last year, 18 in 2014, 15 in 2012 and 20 in 2011. That's simply too much. He's a good QB but no way is he great. He also (much like Romo) seems to throw INTs at the worst possible time. Not that there ever is a good time to do it. |
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07-26-2017, 08:58 PM | #4975 |
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