Chiefs *****The Xavier Worthy Thread***** - Page 33

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**The Franchise** · 04-26-2024, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Professor X

Dude....

Weapon X.

DJ's left nut · 04-26-2024, 08:53 AM

This is gonna sound silly - maybe it is.

But he doesn't look to play 'record setting' fast to me.

Don't get me wrong, he's !@#$ing fast. He plays like a fast player. But he plays like guys who are in the 4.3ish range to my eyes.

Watch Hill and he looks like he's at 1.5x speed and everyone else is at 1. Worthy looks like he's at 1, but just faster than those guys. I didn't expect that. I figured when you see 4.2 speed that this guy is DUSTING dudes and not just pulling a half a stride on them on a vert route.

So I do kinda wonder if the rumors that he cut a bunch of weight to speed up his 40 time have some legs to them. He plays a little more like a 4.3/165-170 lb player to my eyes.

Now what I do really like about him is his footwork. He does some of the footfires and such but they're all with purpose. And he does a real REAL nice job of using his upper body to sell routes and gain/lose momentum. I mean there's some real textbook arm action stuff he does on occasion to help him sluff off speed and make a sharp cut. And then he'll do the same sort of thing but use it as a deke.

He's pretty polished as a route runner. And it's not in those silly flashy ways that got people hot and bothered about Moore - it's in the real ways that actually help dudes get open. The subtle hip fakes to get a DB to turn just a little before you go the other way on him and find a little space and time.

I do kinda feel like the Flowers comps might be pretty legit. He may not have the pure physicality of Flowers (relative to their size, of course), but he doesn't shy away from contact.

I like him. He's a fun player. I'm not sure if he'll be the 'best' player to be taken from this block of guys but I think he'll be productive. I hope we have some plans to really use some 11 personnel and get nasty out there rather than just use him as a rotational piece designed to supplant Brown next season (i.e. the FAU model). I feel like he's polished enough and has that stand-out speed that we almost certainly can/will do so.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 04-26-2024, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Uhh.....that might not be a problem this year.

The Jets cornerback Brandin Echols, who was speeding and driving recklessly and partially paralyzed another driver in a wreck was suspended 1 game. However, the incident took place in April of 2022 and he wasn't suspended until the start of the 2023 season. Depending on the legal process, Rice may not be suspended, likely 2-4 games, until the start of the 2025 season.

https://thejetpress.com/posts/ny-jet...ed-2023-season

DJ's left nut · 04-26-2024, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

He runs low with excellent balance.
Hand that guy a year's worth of steak and taters and have him add 10 good pounds to his frame. He'll do...

I just want to again point out that the University of Texas ain't exactly Pittsburgh State, fellas.

Their facilities are friggen state of the art. They're the best of the best. Almost certainly better than ours.

You draft a guy from Texas and you're probably not doing it thinking "Man, if he had a nutritionist we'd be ready to rock!"

Because at UT he almost certainly did. A couple of them in fact. Does that mean he had the maturity to take full advantage of them? Maybe, maybe not. Hard to say.

But I don't think we should still be drafting guys from power programs thinking we'll fundamentally alter their bodies. We probably won't. These guys have been working the hell out of themselves for at least 3 years by the time we get to them. They're probably pretty close to what they're gonna be.

displacedinMN · 04-26-2024, 08:59 AM

8th grader.....

"Vikes had a good draft.

But who got X Worthy?"
....I raise my hand and say-yup, the chiefs got another and better WR. And smile.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-26-2024, 08:59 AM

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

Rashee
Hollywood
Worthy
Kelce
Pop

And just for good measure could you IMAGINE if by some act of God Kadarius un****s himself?

The amount of talent on this offense is outrageous.

**wazu** · 04-26-2024, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just want to again point out that the University of Texas ain't exactly Pittsburgh State, fellas.

Their facilities are friggen state of the art. They're the best of the best. Almost certainly better than ours.

You draft a guy from Texas and you're probably not doing it thinking "Man, if he had a nutritionist we'd be ready to rock!"

Because at UT he almost certainly did. A couple of them in fact. Does that mean he had the maturity to take full advantage of them? Maybe, maybe not. Hard to say.

But I don't think we should still be drafting guys from power programs thinking we'll fundamentally alter their bodies. We probably won't. These guys have been working the hell out of themselves for at least 3 years by the time we get to them. They're probably pretty close to what they're gonna be.

Yeah, but he is still 20 years old. (Think he turns 21 in the next week) Bodies change with age as well. Where it might be impossible to add much weight as a teen/20 year old he could add some pounds over the next couple of years. I wouldn't draft him counting on it, but I'd bet it's more likely than not to happen.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 04-26-2024, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just want to again point out that the University of Texas ain't exactly Pittsburgh State, fellas.

Their facilities are friggen state of the art. They're the best of the best. Almost certainly better than ours.

You draft a guy from Texas and you're probably not doing it thinking "Man, if he had a nutritionist we'd be ready to rock!"

Because at UT he almost certainly did. A couple of them in fact. Does that mean he had the maturity to take full advantage of them? Maybe, maybe not. Hard to say.

But I don't think we should still be drafting guys from power programs thinking we'll fundamentally alter their bodies. We probably won't. These guys have been working the hell out of themselves for at least 3 years by the time we get to them. They're probably pretty close to what they're gonna be.

I agree, the only caveat to that would be his age/physical maturity as you said, with him just turning 21 this upcoming weekend that would allow some additional girth.

**The Franchise** · 04-26-2024, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

Rashee
Hollywood
Worthy
Kelce
Pop

And just for good measure could you IMAGINE if by some act of God Kadarius un****s himself?

The amount of talent on this offense is outrageous.

Don't forget Skyy Moore.

via GIPHY

St. Patty's Fire · 04-26-2024, 09:01 AM

this pick is even more exciting after sleeping on it

his upside is so high and hes coming into a perfect situation where he’s insulated by a lot of talent around him. rice/worthy is a DISGUSTING 1-2 punch moving forward, and having all of brown and them for next year means we’re gonna be back to maybe even 2018 offense levels

like i’d place a pretty hefty bet on Mahomes going for 45+ TDs next year.

FloridaMan88 · 04-26-2024, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just want to again point out that the University of Texas ain't exactly Pittsburgh State, fellas.

Their facilities are friggen state of the art. They're the best of the best. Almost certainly better than ours.

You draft a guy from Texas and you're probably not doing it thinking "Man, if he had a nutritionist we'd be ready to rock!"

Because at UT he almost certainly did. A couple of them in fact. Does that mean he had the maturity to take full advantage of them? Maybe, maybe not. Hard to say.

But I don't think we should still be drafting guys from power programs thinking we'll fundamentally alter their bodies. We probably won't. These guys have been working the hell out of themselves for at least 3 years by the time we get to them. They're probably pretty close to what they're gonna be.

He’s just 20 years old… so he’ll naturally add more muscle/weight.

O.city · 04-26-2024, 09:03 AM

I'd still add another RB. Not a "bruising back" like some want, they need a guy that can separate and run away from people.

Is the RB from Tennessee good enough to take in the 2nd?

MahomesMagic · 04-26-2024, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

this pick is even more exciting after sleeping on it

his upside is so high and hes coming into a perfect situation where he’s insulated by a lot of talent around him. rice/worthy is a DISGUSTING 1-2 punch moving forward, and having all of brown and them for next year means we’re gonna be back to maybe even 2018 offense levels

like i’d place a pretty hefty bet on Mahomes going for 45+ TDs next year.

Mahomes wants another league MVP on the way to the 3 peat.

ToxSocks · 04-26-2024, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

....we need a receiver that can't be taken out of the game easily with physical defensive play.

Sure, Worthy and Hollywood are fast, but let's be real, LJ Snead will maul them at the LOS, and they aren't nearly the receivers that Hill, Chase, Jefferson, etc. are, and Sneed shut them down by being physical.

This is one of the reasons I really want Brenden Rice. He is very big, very physical, and played with Caleb Williams.

This argument is all over the place. You contradict yourself in your own post.

On one hand you say Hill, Chase and Jefferson got shutdown by a physical corner. On the other hand, you say you want a WR that can't be shut down by a physical corner, and those are "true #1's".

So....if Hill, Chase and Jefferson got shut down by a physical corner, then by your logic, they aren't true #1's.

And if THOSE guys aren't true 1's, then what you're asking for doesn't exist.

Your argument makes no damn sense.

I understand the want for a big bodied WR that can go up and win a contested ball, but again, the Chiefs already drafted that guy. Rashe Rice. He's already on the roster.

MahomesKnows · 04-26-2024, 09:04 AM

After watching some of his highlights it's hard not to love the pick. Kid makes some tough catches and also breaks tackle more than I figured he would.

04-25-2024, 09:24 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-248004 VARSITY	***The Xavier Worthy Thread* More to come! Spoiler! Text from an AFC GM on the #Chiefs getting Xavier Worthy: “FU me” https://t.co/IjLQ7xeN37 — Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) April 26, 2024 Xavier Worthy - WR, UT - Early career production - Dynamic threat downfield & after the catch - Elite speed & start-stop ability - Fluid mover w/ good route running chops - Ball tracking is A+ Not entirely sure why the vibe isn't higher when talking about him in the WR class. pic.twitter.com/dv3JjdyZgh — Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) February 26, 2024 The only one Worthy. With the 28th pick in the NFL Draft, we have selected @XavierWorthy! pic.twitter.com/enRBDQAVA5 — Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 26, 2024 I'll write something fresh about Worthy tomorrow morning now that he's a Chief to lay out how he's more than speed, but for now here's an excerpt from article linked in the below tweet... https://t.co/EcW7QtUrFF pic.twitter.com/811ahCEfMS — Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) April 26, 2024 Welcome to Kansas City Xavier Worthy Here’s how the draft party reacted to X’s name being called #HookEm \| #Texas pic.twitter.com/eCnu8W7Rrb — Cory Mose (@Cory_Mose) April 26, 2024 Kansas City Chiefs add some serious speed in Xavier Worthy https://t.co/ZbhUUQwa32 pic.twitter.com/8D6v8ecd4j — Reception Perception (@RecepPerception) April 26, 2024 Last edited by Dante84; 08-21-2024 at 08:33 PM..
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04-26-2024, 08:53 AM	#482
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $959099	This is gonna sound silly - maybe it is. But he doesn't look to play 'record setting' fast to me. Don't get me wrong, he's !@#$ing fast. He plays like a fast player. But he plays like guys who are in the 4.3ish range to my eyes. Watch Hill and he looks like he's at 1.5x speed and everyone else is at 1. Worthy looks like he's at 1, but just faster than those guys. I didn't expect that. I figured when you see 4.2 speed that this guy is DUSTING dudes and not just pulling a half a stride on them on a vert route. So I do kinda wonder if the rumors that he cut a bunch of weight to speed up his 40 time have some legs to them. He plays a little more like a 4.3/165-170 lb player to my eyes. Now what I do really like about him is his footwork. He does some of the footfires and such but they're all with purpose. And he does a real REAL nice job of using his upper body to sell routes and gain/lose momentum. I mean there's some real textbook arm action stuff he does on occasion to help him sluff off speed and make a sharp cut. And then he'll do the same sort of thing but use it as a deke. He's pretty polished as a route runner. And it's not in those silly flashy ways that got people hot and bothered about Moore - it's in the real ways that actually help dudes get open. The subtle hip fakes to get a DB to turn just a little before you go the other way on him and find a little space and time. I do kinda feel like the Flowers comps might be pretty legit. He may not have the pure physicality of Flowers (relative to their size, of course), but he doesn't shy away from contact. I like him. He's a fun player. I'm not sure if he'll be the 'best' player to be taken from this block of guys but I think he'll be productive. I hope we have some plans to really use some 11 personnel and get nasty out there rather than just use him as a rotational piece designed to supplant Brown next season (i.e. the FAU model). I feel like he's polished enough and has that stand-out speed that we almost certainly can/will do so. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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04-26-2024, 08:59 AM	#485
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04-26-2024, 08:59 AM	#486
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $3701115	Jesus Tapdancing Christ. Rashee Hollywood Worthy Kelce Pop And just for good measure could you IMAGINE if by some act of God Kadarius un****s himself? The amount of talent on this offense is outrageous.
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04-26-2024, 09:01 AM	#490
St. Patty's Fire 20 years Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: North NJ Casino cash: $2514900	this pick is even more exciting after sleeping on it his upside is so high and hes coming into a perfect situation where he’s insulated by a lot of talent around him. rice/worthy is a DISGUSTING 1-2 punch moving forward, and having all of brown and them for next year means we’re gonna be back to maybe even 2018 offense levels like i’d place a pretty hefty bet on Mahomes going for 45+ TDs next year. __________________ Chief good "The word 'bipartisan' usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." – George Carlin
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04-26-2024, 09:03 AM	#492
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04-26-2024, 09:04 AM	#495
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