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TLO · 01-19-2025, 07:02 PM

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crispystl · 01-20-2025, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I wouldn't say the Texans game was a bad offensive performance. They were a little rusty to start, but 23 points in 7 drives is pretty good. And like Chris Simms said, it kind of throws off the gameplan to start in the red zone.

3.3 points per drive. Scored on 5 of 7 drives vs a great defense that was built to exploit KC's weakness. The same effort probably translates to 30+ vs the Bills. Their defense isn't even close to Houston's level.

I was at the game and the weather was not conducive for throwing the ball all over the place and scoring a bunch of points. There were big huge gusts of Arctic winds every couple of minutes. I mean they would pierce through 8 layers of clothes like you were naked. I was much more cold at the Texans game than the dolphins playoff game last year. The dolphins game may have had a lower sustained consistent temp, but I don’t remember any wind gusts like that.

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ChiefsHawk · 01-20-2025, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

When you spy, you’re sacrificing something somewhere else.

If you don’t have a guy that can do it well, then you aren’t generating enough of a benefit to overcome the negative.

I’m with you. I wouldn’t spy right away at least.

I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

mr. tegu · 01-20-2025, 12:39 PM

The Bills got luckier in that game than we have all year. On the final drive they literally did nothing to impact the Ravens or the favorable outcome they got. Absolutely nothing. Didn’t sack Lamar. Didn’t force third and longs or miracle completions. Didn’t pressure Lamar into bad throws. And didn’t guard Andrew’s or force a bad throw from Lamar on the conversion. They literally did nothing but repeatedly and relatively easily get beat but got a lucky break on a once a year drop at the worst time for the Ravens.

All of our “lucky” wins involved the Chiefs impacting the plays in some way and as such cannot simply be dismissed as luck.

Boxer_Chief · 01-20-2025, 12:41 PM

Third and 2 or 3 you have to know Allen is doing that stupid qb draw to the right side of the guard. Have to be ready for it. Killed us last time and killed the ravens yesterday.

Rainbarrel · 01-20-2025, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog

You may be right. Was worth a try.

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Boxer_Chief · 01-20-2025, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk

I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

That’s what I told my dad last night discussing this game, spy with Hicks.

DRM08 · 01-20-2025, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

The Bills got luckier in that game than we have all year. On the final drive they literally did nothing to impact the Ravens or the favorable outcome they got. Absolutely nothing. Didn’t sack Lamar. Didn’t force third and longs or miracle completions. Didn’t pressure Lamar into bad throws. And didn’t guard Andrew’s or force a bad throw from Lamar on the conversion. They literally did nothing but repeatedly and relatively easily get beat but got a lucky break on a once a year drop at the worst time for the Ravens.

All of our “lucky” wins involved the Chiefs impacting the plays in some way and as such cannot simply be dismissed as luck.

Buffalo win yesterday was similar to their win against New England last month. They had a 17 point swing on turnovers and won the Patriots game by 3 points. New England even gave them 7 points on the dumbest backwards pass mistake you will ever see. Buffalo defense is very good at taking advantage of mistakes by the opponents. Turnovers by the Buffalo Defense are a major part of Buffalo’s success this season, despite the claims that Josh Allen does everything by himself.

Wisconsin_Chief · 01-20-2025, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk

I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

Not sure why you'd get killed, he seems like as good of candidate as any.

6'2, 215, ran a 4.49 in the 40. Seems like a good idea, wonder if he's under consideration.

smithandrew051 · 01-20-2025, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk

I'm sure I will get killed on this but I spy him with Hicks

I don’t hate it

Sofa King · 01-20-2025, 12:50 PM

This is nuts

CaptainMorgan · 01-20-2025, 12:51 PM

The Bills D has lived on turnovers. Plus 24 and next closest is plus 16. Chiefs were plus 6 I believe? That’s a wild margin for the Bills to lead the whole league. Ravens never punted and if they simply take care of the ball they’re winning that game (same for Detroit). Have to imagine that Andy and Co. will be preaching ball security and that if you’re going for YAC, watch for the punch outs and get down if there isn’t much YAC there.

People have been critical of Mahomes and the passing offense this past weekend, but I think this team is understanding their matchups and playing on a higher level. Only way the Texans were winning that game was if there were turnovers by the Chiefs. How best for them to get turnovers? Their ends and their CB duo. So what did the Chiefs do? Heavily targeted TE, ran the ball. Didn’t really give the CBs or the ends a chance to wreck the game. Mahomes was taking the sack if it was risky. They knew the defense wouldn’t let up many points (which was true) and so just needed to not put them on short fields or give up points on offence. This was more important than running the score up by taking chances and opening the door to the turnovers.

Against Buffalo the risk assessment is different. They don’t have those ends or those corners and their offence is likely to have more success that the Texans, so I think we’ll see more aggressive offence because 1) we’re gonna need it and 2) we have the plus matchups to do it with less downside risk than was there against the Texans.

My one concern is that we overuse Pacheco instead of Kareem. Kareem’s vision as a runner is far superior. He rarely takes loses and usually gets more yards than he should. A 2nd and 10 with Pacheco is a 2nd and 7 with Hunt. 3rd and 7 with Pacheco is a 3rd and 3 with Hunt. That makes a big difference. I’d love to see 2 series Hunt, 1 for Pacheco type rotation. In the second half it’ll pay dividends and Pacheco can do what he does best which is to hit a big one.

ChiefsCountry · 01-20-2025, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

This is nuts

Nobody gives a shit about regular season games

PatMahomesIsGod · 01-20-2025, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog

Stay classy.

We haze each other here. Opposing fans get it worse.

If you’re looking for a kumbaya circle jerk, move on.

Mr. Plow · 01-20-2025, 01:33 PM

Mission Accomplished. Well done gentlemen.

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Logic
I have no doubt that that thread is full of delusional posts and laughable homer takes, but...

You could not pay me any amount of money to intentionally spend even a second of time on Chiefs Planet.

Truly the most toxic and miserable hellscape on earth.

Hammock Parties · 01-20-2025, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

this is gonna slap hard if we win

I am definitely buying this if we win.

It has the Bills on it.

It has '20.

It has '24.

It's a shirt for TWO AFC Championships.

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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $-698700	The Bills got luckier in that game than we have all year. On the final drive they literally did nothing to impact the Ravens or the favorable outcome they got. Absolutely nothing. Didn’t sack Lamar. Didn’t force third and longs or miracle completions. Didn’t pressure Lamar into bad throws. And didn’t guard Andrew’s or force a bad throw from Lamar on the conversion. They literally did nothing but repeatedly and relatively easily get beat but got a lucky break on a once a year drop at the worst time for the Ravens. All of our “lucky” wins involved the Chiefs impacting the plays in some way and as such cannot simply be dismissed as luck.
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CaptainMorgan Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $6805125	The Bills D has lived on turnovers. Plus 24 and next closest is plus 16. Chiefs were plus 6 I believe? That’s a wild margin for the Bills to lead the whole league. Ravens never punted and if they simply take care of the ball they’re winning that game (same for Detroit). Have to imagine that Andy and Co. will be preaching ball security and that if you’re going for YAC, watch for the punch outs and get down if there isn’t much YAC there. People have been critical of Mahomes and the passing offense this past weekend, but I think this team is understanding their matchups and playing on a higher level. Only way the Texans were winning that game was if there were turnovers by the Chiefs. How best for them to get turnovers? Their ends and their CB duo. So what did the Chiefs do? Heavily targeted TE, ran the ball. Didn’t really give the CBs or the ends a chance to wreck the game. Mahomes was taking the sack if it was risky. They knew the defense wouldn’t let up many points (which was true) and so just needed to not put them on short fields or give up points on offence. This was more important than running the score up by taking chances and opening the door to the turnovers. Against Buffalo the risk assessment is different. They don’t have those ends or those corners and their offence is likely to have more success that the Texans, so I think we’ll see more aggressive offence because 1) we’re gonna need it and 2) we have the plus matchups to do it with less downside risk than was there against the Texans. My one concern is that we overuse Pacheco instead of Kareem. Kareem’s vision as a runner is far superior. He rarely takes loses and usually gets more yards than he should. A 2nd and 10 with Pacheco is a 2nd and 7 with Hunt. 3rd and 7 with Pacheco is a 3rd and 3 with Hunt. That makes a big difference. I’d love to see 2 series Hunt, 1 for Pacheco type rotation. In the second half it’ll pay dividends and Pacheco can do what he does best which is to hit a big one.
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