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Old 02-17-2021, 10:29 AM  
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Old 10-14-2021, 12:58 PM   #466
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Woah this is confirmed? I thought Mo would be happy with his coach doing his bidding?

What happened in the locker room to cause this?
CBS sports and MLB@bat both sent me a update message, I'd guess so.
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Old 10-14-2021, 01:00 PM   #467
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Bringing in Reyes in that spot was a fireable offense regardless of past history.
A guy in my office building just said the same thing. Should have left his ass in LA.
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Bringing in Reyes in that spot was a fireable offense regardless of past history.
Yep, the data said he had a high probability of giving up a home run. You had other choices.
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Holy shit, I mean I get it but I am shocked. Yea bringing Reyes in there was THAT bad.
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Tension between Shildt and Albert? First I have heard of that news.
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I have no idea why Albert is such a made man. I know they like his developmental philosophy for prospects in the system, but the man cannot teach big league players. It's a different skill set. Keep him on for the minors and bring in someone who can help the individual players with swing mechanics when they get in a rut if need be.
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One thing I'll say about the St. Louis Cardinals.

They don't tolerate losing for very long.
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Shildt managed the hell out of this squad.

A paper thin roster full of cast-offs from other organizations, no discerinable bench talent, decaying players on shit contracts and octogenarian starting pitchers that Shildt managed to get damn nice productivity out of.

When everyone had written them off, he got them playing their best ball of the season. And yeah, I'd have gone Whitley over Reyes, but FFS, they were 0-11 w/ RISP. He can't hit for 'em. That game could've gone 4 more innings and we still lose.

Mike Shildt is a DAMN good major league manager. Meanwhile John Mozeliak has done a piss poor job for about 8 years now and he's ****ing bulletproof.

Shildt saved Mozeliak's job in 2018 and frankly he may have pulled his ass from the fire again this year. And his reward was getting fired by a guy who's nowhere near as good at building a team as Shildt is at running it.

I hope Mike Shannon was right and Bill DeWitt is looking to sell the team. That guy's as senile as Biden at this point. This is goddamn asinine.
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One thing I'll say about the St. Louis Cardinals.

They don't tolerate losing for very long.
Bill DeWitt says his goal is to win 87 games. Shildt has averaged a pro-rated 91/season in his time at manager.

They absolutely tolerate being slightly better than average so long as your a quiet little yes man when Mozeliak tells you that he's going to get get you Jon Lester and JA Happ to save your season.

Sounds like Shildt saw $60 million in completely unproductive roster chaff come off the payroll and was no longer willing to bite his tongue.

This is all about Mozeliak needing a puppet manager and DeWitt continuing to be snowed by this ****ing charlatan.
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Holy shit, I mean I get it but I am shocked. Yea bringing Reyes in there was THAT bad.
Not near as bad as extending Matt Carpenter and a host of other blunders with personnel. Mo can’t evaluate young talent, and then overvalues those who are at best past their peak or as in the case of Andrew Miller…flat out toasted.
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Bill DeWitt says his goal is to win 87 games. Shildt has averaged a pro-rated 91/season in his time at manager.

They absolutely tolerate being slightly better than average so long as your a quiet little yes man when Mozeliak tells you that he's going to get get you Jon Lester and JA Happ to save your season.

Sounds like Shildt saw $60 million in completely unproductive roster chaff come off the payroll and was no longer willing to bite his tongue.

This is all about Mozeliak needing a puppet manager and DeWitt continuing to be snowed by this ****ing charlatan.
Schildt is a terrible manager who doesn't know when to say no.

Reyes coming in there with the game on the line and bullpen literally full of guys who didn't have a 7 ERA since the Allstar break are all you need to know he is bad at his job.
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