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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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Old 05-26-2023, 06:57 PM   #466
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Old 05-26-2023, 06:58 PM   #467
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He’s still getting $21 million from the Tards for this season too.
To me, this is the whole thing.

Wanna sign for cheap, collect your Cards money, win a ring, and cash in? Sure, welcome.

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Old 05-26-2023, 07:01 PM   #468
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Pretty sure it’s a running joke. That pic has been used in many “I saw him at the airport” joke posts. Maybe even going back to Larry Fitzgerald years ago.
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Old 05-26-2023, 07:01 PM   #469
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I’m sure he was motivated to sign in KC, but do you think he could’ve gotten a better deal elsewhere? Do you think all of these players are clamoring to sign with the Chiefs and we’re consistently getting discounts? Absolutely not.

And you made an exaggerated claim, realized you were incorrect, and tapped out. It’s like telling me that MVS is getting paid more than JuJu.
Got it. I didn't concede because I realized I exaggerated... you MADE me tap out.

As for JuJu...

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-engl...chuster-21804/

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JuJu Smith-Schuster signed a 3 year, $25,500,000 contract with the New England Patriots, including a $7,900,000 signing bonus, $16,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,500,000. In 2023, Smith-Schuster will earn a base salary of $1,100,000 and a signing bonus of $7,900,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,674,509 and a dead cap value of $16,000,000.

Though on other searches it says a 3/33 contract. Based on sportrac... it seems that Juju had/has a 3/25.5 contract to MVS's 3/30 which is what I was basing my argument about his current contract on.

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As for average depth of target and catch percentage, do you think you should be comparing a guy who is regularly targeted, say, 5-10yrs downfield with a guy who is targeted 15-20yds downfield? Do you think catches per target should be equal between the two of them? No. Hence, the guy who leads the league in ADoT should be expected to have a somewhat lower catch percentage.
I'm more than happy to be wrong and I would have to rewatch all 17 games again to point them out but... dude dropped/failed to catch plenty of short/mid range passes. He wasn't dropping/missing only bombs. Alas, since I can't point them out by game and with a time stamp I'm just gonna say you are right and I'm wrong and go about my day.

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Old 05-26-2023, 07:02 PM   #470
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Pretty sure it’s a running joke. That pic has been used in many “I saw him at the airport” joke posts.
It like he’s new here or something lol
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Old 05-26-2023, 07:02 PM   #471
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To me, this is the whole thing.

Wanna sign for cheap, collect your Cards money, win a ring, and cash in? Sure, welcome.

Want a big contract? Nope.
Yup. KC can’t compete in a bidding war with salary. Their trump card is Mahomes and a very legit shot at a ring.
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Old 05-26-2023, 07:08 PM   #472
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Yup. KC can’t compete in a bidding war with salary. Their trump card is Mahomes and a very legit shot at a ring.
No, not gonna happen. I've been told that teams don't get FA "discounts" because they are x2 SB champions and current contenders.

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First, name all the FAs the Chiefs have signed the last few seasons at a clear discount to the market because we’re a winning organization. I’m very excited to see your list.
Go on... name them.
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Old 05-26-2023, 07:10 PM   #473
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Old 05-26-2023, 07:14 PM   #476
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I’ll put the chances of us signing Hopkins at less than 30%. We’ve already made moves to fill the roles needed in the offense, haven’t we?

I can definitely see immediate surplus value of a HOFer like Hopkins around all these younger players for a year, but these young guys need to play to improve so with his age a 1 year contract might be a perfect fit for both sides.

He could win a ring and retire if he wanted to.
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Old 05-26-2023, 07:59 PM   #480
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Well, they pushed money forward. You absolutely do that for a 24 year old MVP QB. You don't for an over 30 WR. You just can't mortgage a chunk of Mahomes' prime for him.
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