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Old 04-28-2023, 06:41 PM  
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Old 04-30-2023, 01:22 PM   #466
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Flowers reminded me of Golden Tate. Nice player but not worth a trade up for.

Johnston gave me Shenault vibes.
Flowers is way better than that in my opinion. My favorite receiver in the draft and it isn't close
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Old 04-30-2023, 01:55 PM   #467
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If you wanted Johnston like myself, Rice is a really nice consolation prize.

Like Johnston, he just really compliments Toney and Moore perfectly, and I'm excited to see those 3 grow into a potentially great trio.
This me.

All the things you wanted from Johnston (big WR with YAC ability, ability to win down the field in contested spots), Rice can do. You can make an excellent case that while Rice is 2" smaller and a 0.05 tick slower in the 40, Rice is a better 1x1 downfield receiving threat because of his vertical, strong hands, and demonstrated ability to win contested catches.
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Old 04-30-2023, 05:27 PM   #468
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I think Rice will be better than Moore, thoughts?
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Old 04-30-2023, 05:32 PM   #469
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I think Rice will be better than Moore, thoughts?
We've been given every indication that he should be, yes.

He also could be the same guy.

My guess is that he'll be better than Skyy. Possible true WR2 type.
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Old 04-30-2023, 05:35 PM   #470
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This is awesome. Veach wanted him from the get go
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Old 04-30-2023, 05:42 PM   #471
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This is awesome. Veach wanted him from the get go
It's always fun just to see the reactions from these kids when they get drafted.
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Here's my opinion on the matter and what I'm going to say is no disrespect to you.

When we sit here and breakdown how he looks "on tape"...we're going off of highlight videos. We're not watching game tape of every single one of his games. We're also doing it through the lense of a fan. Veach, and his scouts, do this for a living. Does that mean that they're perfect? No. But they're a hell of a lot more experienced than anyone on this board.

They also get the opportunity to talk to his coaches and to sit down with him. They get the chance to have him diagnose plays and coverages. Pick his brain on what happened during certain plays.

So when people come in here and instantly go with "yeah well this guy would have been better" or "this guy was right there and we passed on him"....they're talking out their ass. They're looking at a 3 minute highlight video, or a write-up by a "draft expert" and basing it off of that. They don't know shit about how that player would fit into this offense.
Thank you for this. I was trying to think about how I was going to frame a similar post about how we as fans determine whether a player is good or not. We see some games, some highlights, and we either know their name or we don't. That's certainly some of the equation, but it's nowhere NEAR all of it. The interviews are so important in figuring out how the guy might fit into our program. Pat was PFF's #29 player headed into the 2017 NFL Draft. Why was he so low when they have access to AND evaluate all of the tape? What they don't have is access to those interviews and interactive film sessions that might comprise as much as 50% of the evaluation.
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I mean shit, every single receiver in this draft had the catching passes for a game winning touchdown from Mahomes fantasy go through their head at least once.
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This is awesome. Veach wanted him from the get go
What makes it even greater is Clark's reaction to his new player saying YOOOOOO and YESSSSIR. He is awkwardly trying to find the right words to respond with.
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