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rico · 03-17-2012, 04:37 PM

Alright Planeteers, I've been arguing on message boards with people about this off and on for a couple years now and I want to get CP's input on it. The question is this: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Mike Tyson in his prime? Let's hear it!

**Easy 6** · 01-30-2014, 04:28 PM

Someone earlier correctly pointed out that you pretty much never see true eastern styles used in modern MMA, but they left out the reason why... if some true kung fu master were allowed to fight and use everything he knew there would be a trail of dead bodies and assorted grievous injuries in their wake.

In a no shots barred fight, I believe Bruce would first confuse and frustrate Tyson, then as Mike angrily rushed in Bruce would catch him with something that'd either break a limb or damn near kill him.

MAYHEM · 01-30-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Bruce Lee incorporated boxing training techniques in his martial arts style. Which was unheard of for martial arts at the time and initially ridiculed.

There's a great deal of additional training.

More techniques, yes, but I doubt MMA trains longer and harder than prize fighters.

Jakemall · 01-30-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

If you want a puncher's fight you'd want an in-prime Foreman and in-prime Tyson.

I think I know who'd win but I'd still pay big for that one...

It'd come down to can Foreman keep Tyson from staying inside his reach. On the outside Foreman would kill him...inside Tyson can rip anyone up.

**Rausch** · 01-30-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

It'd come down to can Foreman keep Tyson from staying inside his reach. On the outside Foreman would kill him...inside Tyson can rip anyone up.

Frazier loved dirty boxing and Foreman ****ing ruined him...

Tombstone RJ · 01-30-2014, 04:40 PM

Tyson circa 1987 fighting a much larger fighter:

Tombstone RJ · 01-30-2014, 04:42 PM

Another pic of Tyson circa 1987:

**Rausch** · 01-30-2014, 05:17 PM

On a side note what I wouldn't give to have this signed...

Jobomb · 01-30-2014, 10:19 PM

People watch too many movies. Tyson has 100 lbs on him. And a vicious pinch, speed, and everything else that comes with being a world class boxer.

Mayweather would win too.

In58men · 01-30-2014, 10:28 PM

at the Bruce Lee votes. People are seriously saying Lee would beat up Tyson on a fight. Holy shit

RobBlake · 01-30-2014, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

at the Bruce Lee votes. People are seriously saying Lee would beat up Tyson on a fight. Holy shit

People watch too many kung fu movies. Tyson would have some difficulty in the size up phase of the fight, but once Tyson lands a solid punch -- can be body or head.. game over.

ThaVirus · 01-30-2014, 10:59 PM

Well, I'm glad we can just look at a couple guys and determine who'd be the winner based on their size. If that were the case, there'd never be fights...

I understand the importance of mass and it's relation to power, but there's a huge difference in fighting styles that favors Lee. There are also weaknesses in human anatomy that can easily be exploited, which also just so happen to benefit Lee.

I'm talking leg strikes (which are far more powerful than any other) and joints. In Tyson's traditional boxing stance, the nearest part of his body to Lee would be his forward knee. That's just a huge weak spot, in my opinion. Especially when you consider he'd be fighting someone as skilled and as fast as Lee.

Lost in all the talk about how fast he was, though, Lee was every bit as powerful. There are truly some remarkable feats of strength that guy displayed in his short life. This is just a small quote from someone that knew him:

Wally Jay - "I last saw Bruce after he moved from Culver City to Bel Air. He had a big heavy bag hanging out on his patio. It weighed 300lbs. I could hardly move it at all. Bruce said to me "Hey, Wally, watch this" and he jumped back and kicked it and this monster of a heavy bag went up to the ceiling, Thump!!! And came back down. I still can't believe the power that guy had".

A few well-placed low kicks to the thigh and/or knee area could really devastate Tyson. People often forget that the true power of a punch starts in the ground. If one leg is structurally weakened, that could do a lot to dampen Tyson's punching power.

Holy hell, I'm nerding out right now and need to stop... The point I'm trying to make is that I have no ****ing clue who'd win but I hate when people assume that a smaller guy would have no chance against a bigger guy.

Dayze · 01-31-2014, 12:11 AM

the more and more I think about it, Lee would woop that ass.

I don't think he'd allow Tike Myson to land a clean blow. He's too quickl

Size/pound difference doesn't matter if you crack a dude on the button.

WhiteWhale · 01-31-2014, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Well, I'm glad we can just look at a couple guys and determine who'd be the winner based on their size. If that were the case, there'd never be fights...

I understand the importance of mass and it's relation to power, but there's a huge difference in fighting styles that favors Lee. There are also weaknesses in human anatomy that can easily be exploited, which also just so happen to benefit Lee.

I'm talking leg strikes (which are far more powerful than any other) and joints. In Tyson's traditional boxing stance, the nearest part of his body to Lee would be his forward knee. That's just a huge weak spot, in my opinion. Especially when you consider he'd be fighting someone as skilled and as fast as Lee.

Lost in all the talk about how fast he was, though, Lee was every bit as powerful. There are truly some remarkable feats of strength that guy displayed in his short life. This is just a small quote from someone that knew him:

Wally Jay - "I last saw Bruce after he moved from Culver City to Bel Air. He had a big heavy bag hanging out on his patio. It weighed 300lbs. I could hardly move it at all. Bruce said to me "Hey, Wally, watch this" and he jumped back and kicked it and this monster of a heavy bag went up to the ceiling, Thump!!! And came back down. I still can't believe the power that guy had".

A few well-placed low kicks to the thigh and/or knee area could really devastate Tyson. People often forget that the true power of a punch starts in the ground. If one leg is structurally weakened, that could do a lot to dampen Tyson's punching power.

Holy hell, I'm nerding out right now and need to stop... The point I'm trying to make is that I have no ****ing clue who'd win but I hate when people assume that a smaller guy would have no chance against a bigger guy.

What are you talking about? The difference in fighting styles favors the superior style.

Boxing > Wing Chun

Seriously guys... Bruce Lee was an actor since childhood. He was raised on a soundstage, not a dojo.

I assume one guy would win because one guy was a professional fighter while the other was an actor. There is nothing other than movies and anecdotes for anyone to think a 165 pound actor could beat up a former Heavyweight boxing champion. It's hilariously preposterous. "Lee would win... he trained Kareem and beat up Chuck Norris in a movie once!"

WhiteWhale · 01-31-2014, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Correct. It's about mean. And strong. And big.

It's amazing people can keep saying that.

Anyone who's been in an actual fight knows size/strength is a huge factor in the winner. These people believe in hollywood cliches.

Professional combat sports have weight classes exactly BECAUSE it matters.

I do like the mean reference. Mean matters a lot too.

OldSchool · 01-31-2014, 04:34 AM

As much as I liked Bruce Lee, Tyson would knock his 135 pound body into outter space. Tyson in his prime was one of the fastest and arguably the most powerful puncher I have ever seen.

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01-30-2014, 10:59 PM	#476
ThaVirus Grand champ Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $152369	Well, I'm glad we can just look at a couple guys and determine who'd be the winner based on their size. If that were the case, there'd never be fights... I understand the importance of mass and it's relation to power, but there's a huge difference in fighting styles that favors Lee. There are also weaknesses in human anatomy that can easily be exploited, which also just so happen to benefit Lee. I'm talking leg strikes (which are far more powerful than any other) and joints. In Tyson's traditional boxing stance, the nearest part of his body to Lee would be his forward knee. That's just a huge weak spot, in my opinion. Especially when you consider he'd be fighting someone as skilled and as fast as Lee. Lost in all the talk about how fast he was, though, Lee was every bit as powerful. There are truly some remarkable feats of strength that guy displayed in his short life. This is just a small quote from someone that knew him: Wally Jay - "I last saw Bruce after he moved from Culver City to Bel Air. He had a big heavy bag hanging out on his patio. It weighed 300lbs. I could hardly move it at all. Bruce said to me "Hey, Wally, watch this" and he jumped back and kicked it and this monster of a heavy bag went up to the ceiling, Thump!!! And came back down. I still can't believe the power that guy had". A few well-placed low kicks to the thigh and/or knee area could really devastate Tyson. People often forget that the true power of a punch starts in the ground. If one leg is structurally weakened, that could do a lot to dampen Tyson's punching power. Holy hell, I'm nerding out right now and need to stop... The point I'm trying to make is that I have no ****ing clue who'd win but I hate when people assume that a smaller guy would have no chance against a bigger guy.
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