Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 311

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

That crappy city school generates some nice revies.

"U of L reported athletic revenue of $74.936 million for the 2010-11 fiscal year during a meeting of its athletic association Tuesday. That was a $22.5 million increase over the previous year. It was $10.5 million more than projected and created a surplus of roughly $7 million, most of which will be designated to a contingency fund for debt payments on the football expansion."

Link

I'm not sure about Mizzou, but based on what I found, their total Athletic Department revenue in 2009-2010 was $55,674 ,279.

Does anybody have figure for 2010-2011 fiscal year? I'd guess they probably dwarf that of Louisville, that crappy little city school.

Oh no you don't! Don't go throwing facts in this drama!

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Nah, Mizzou staying is the best outcome.(If only for the sheer comedic gold it's gonna bring)

But they already have a built in escape, "the Prison Walls."

That being said, I bet they get the very best shot from every Big 12 team now, even in softball.

**DeezNutz** · 10-12-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

But they already have a built in escape, "the Prison Walls."

That being said, I bet they get the very best shot from every Big 12 team now, even in softball.

I don't think the players give two shits about most the alignment talk, honestly.

**alnorth** · 10-12-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Oh no you don't! Don't go throwing facts in this drama!

If it makes people feel better, think of them as Kentucky State University, based out of Louisville. It isn't the name that matters, its the school.

**Saul Good** · 10-12-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Nah, Mizzou staying is the best outcome.(If only for the sheer comedic gold it's gonna bring)

Ha ha Mizzou. You had the conference by the balls and forced us to give you everything you wanted. You completely won the negotiation and leveraged that into a much better deal. Ha ha!

**Saulbadguy** · 10-12-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Ha ha Mizzou. You had the conference by the balls and forced us to give you everything you wanted. You completely won the negotiation and leveraged that into a much better deal. Ha ha!

I won't laugh at Mizzou. I'll laugh at its fans.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't think the players give two shits about most the alignment talk, honestly.

Really? I am not going to argue with you, but there has been many posts on here saying the Big 12 is going to lose recruiting battles, due to the realignment, TCU etc.

But I was really referring to the Coaches, putting in a little extra effort. Similar to what the Chiefs saw from Chan Gailey, if you buy into that.

**the Talking Can** · 10-12-2011, 01:13 PM

I'll gladly take louisville in the big 12

national bball brand w/ hall of fame coach (and abortionist)...massive upgrade in talent level and success from MU

a football program with money behind it, just needs a coach (see: petrino)...they can compete at some point, unlike KU football

gives KU basketball a toe hold into the south for recruiting..

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

If it makes people feel better, think of them as Kentucky State University, based out of Louisville. It isn't the name that matters, its the school.

I have always had respect for Louisville, back to their MO Valley days. Those were some epic battles. Cincy as well.

**Saul Good** · 10-12-2011, 01:19 PM

Louisville's football program made a profit if $15 million. Mizzou's made $25 million.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Louisville's football program made a profit if $15 million. Mizzou's made $25 million.

Good, then pay the exit fees and lets move on.

**DeezNutz** · 10-12-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Really? I am not going to argue with you, but there has been many posts on here saying the Big 12 is going to lose recruiting battles, due to the realignment, TCU etc.

But I was really referring to the Coaches, putting in a little extra effort. Similar to what the Chiefs saw from Chan Gailey, if you buy into that.

Eh, as long as OU and Texas anchor the conference, football recruiting will be just fine.

I'm not sure about any extra effort from coaches. Just seems like that would take a Kietzman-like level of insecurity, one that a doubt a guy like Bob Stoops/Old Man Snyder has.

Mr. Plow · 10-12-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Louisville's football program made a profit if $15 million. Mizzou's made $25 million.

Someone....I believe saulbadguy.....a link to an article showing the top revenue schools in the country and which sport (football/basketball) brought in the most revenue. Louisville was listed in I believe the top 20 in the country in total revenue and was the only bball school listed in the top 30/40.

I've been looking for that article, but can't find it.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-12-2011, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Someone....I believe saulbadguy.....a link to an article showing the top revenue schools in the country and which sport (football/basketball) brought in the most revenue. Louisville was listed in I believe the top 20 in the country in total revenue and was the only bball school listed in the top 30/40.

I've been looking for that article, but can't find it.

I doubt I posted something that stupid and irrelevant. Who knows, though?

Reerun_KC · 10-12-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I doubt I posted something that stupid and irrelevant. Who knows, though?

I dont...

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $746966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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