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ROYC75 · 02:02 PM

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BlackOp · 08-23-2022, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Dare them... hell, with Williams and Gordon at RB, I see a whole lot of focus on those RBs and Williams is a nice receiving threat. Denver was the best rushing offense in the AFCW last year and with Williams going into Y2, he will be the focal point. They have the makings of a 2,400 yard rushing duo and that will go a long way to open things up for the passing game. And, it keeps the defense fresh.

They'll struggle at times, no doubt about it. But, there is a lot of upside in what that offense can produce. And, considering the teams they'll face, they will need that running game to set the tone to keep those prolific offenses on the sideline as long as they can.

Like I said...I'd make them prove I have to worry about play-action. I think your OL is below average.

Wilson stunk it up when teams starting giving him the 2 deep safety look...he's like 12-11 over his past 23 games. Mahomes has lost 9 games in his past 46 (two KC losses were by back-ups, one win)

Mile High Mania · 08-23-2022, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I just want to reiterate how strange it is the the Donks have to play Seattle in their first game.

Patton's entire credibility is on the line in week one. Normally...you wouldn't face the team you essentially banked the next 3-4 years on in a trade.

He HAS to be sweating bullets...and might be part of the reason for not letting the starters play. That's a lot of pressure on everyone within the organization...

If Seattle wins with Geno Smith...and Wilson looks out of sync....hoo-boy. The national/local press will have some fun.

There's no doubt that a loss @ SEA would look bad, especially if it's ugly.

It's a strange opener considering the 2021 records. I think Denver wins 34 - 27.

TEX · 08-23-2022, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

There's no doubt that a loss @ SEA would look bad, especially if it's ugly.

It's a strange opener considering the 2021 records. I think Denver wins 34 - 27.

I think Seattle wins 63-2.

BlackOp · 08-23-2022, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

There's no doubt that a loss @ SEA would look bad, especially if it's ugly.

It's a strange opener considering the 2021 records. I think Denver wins 34 - 27.

I fully expect officiating to be a factor...Donks are the NFL media's chosen Cinderella team. They put them on Monday night to start the season...cant make Walton unhappy with his generous investment. He has friends to impress with his new toy...

Mile High Mania · 08-23-2022, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

I think Seattle wins 63-2.

Now that would truly be a remarkable pile of dung.

Mile High Mania · 08-23-2022, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I fully expect officiating to be a factor...Donks are the NFL media's chosen Cinderella team. They put them on Monday night to start the season...cant make Walton unhappy with his generous investment. He has friends to impress with his new toy...

Well, there's a positive! Yes.

I don't think Denver will need officiating assistance. I'm curious how calls go across the league, there's a lot of bad officiating across the board.

TEX · 08-23-2022, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Now that would truly be a remarkable pile of dung.

A BEAUTIFUL one!

BlackOp · 08-23-2022, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Well, there's a positive! Yes.

I don't think Denver will need officiating assistance. I'm curious how calls go across the league, there's a lot of bad officiating across the board.

You did notice that on Sunday, the Donks first two drives were bailed out on PI/Illegal contact...no? They were both 3rd and 11 plays.

The PI was bogus...looked like great coverage to me.

Like I said..I'll be keeping track of these calls...and if they were legitimate.

Oh and of course you'll be ecstatic if the Donks win with bogus officiating...you've missed the Manning years. It's an integral part of your team's culture/success.

It's like a warm, familiar blanket...

Mile High Mania · 08-23-2022, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

You did notice that on Sunday, the Donks first two drives were bailed out on PI/Illegal contact...no? They were both 3rd and 11 plays.

The PI was bogus...looked like great coverage to me.

Like I said..I'll be keeping track of these calls...and if they were legitimate.

Are you referring to the last preseason game? I didn't watch it.

BlackOp · 08-23-2022, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Are you referring to the last preseason game? I didn't watch it.

If you did...you wouldn't admit it...it's the Donk fan way.

In fairness...I wouldn't admit it either. That was a fugly display of ineptness...

Mile High Mania · 08-23-2022, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

If you did...you wouldn't admit it...it's the Donk fan way.

In fairness...I wouldn't admit it either. That was a fugly display of ineptness...

As I've said a few times, I don't watch preseason games. Before I was married with kids, yeah I watched all the stuff - draft and pro bowls included. I don't have the time to set aside 3 hours to watch backups, especially on a weekend.

If I'm doing nothing and it's on, I might watch some, but that hasn't happened in a while. I was moving my oldest two into their dorms the last two weekends anyway.

BlackOp · 08-23-2022, 11:42 AM

The whole drum up to that opening Monday night will be "what will the Denver's offense look like".

I have a hard time believing NFL corporate will let them lose...it has all the earmarks of manufactured season. The only question is if they really are terrible...whats lengths are they willing to go to. Raiders had eight 4th quarter comebacks in their 12-4 season...so in 2/3rds of their wins...they were trailing towards the end.

Every measurable metric said they were a 8-9 win team...

TomBarndtsTwin · 08-23-2022, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Weird, it seems like you would have heard that the Broncos traded for Wilson.

"Far and away the best deep passer has been Russell Wilson."

https://bestballstats.com/2021/08/25...-deep-passers/

Nice find from some random blogger. As you know, though, opinions vary:

StatMuse:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...deep-ball-2021

NFL Next Generation Stats:

https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-st...or-new-teams-i

PFF:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking...s-kyler-murray

Apparently not everyone is in agreement with yours and KnowMo's claim. We'll see how the 'best deep ball passer in the league' does without Metcalf and Lockett to throw to down the field . . . . . .

MagicHef · 08-23-2022, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Nice find from some random blogger. As you know, though, opinions vary:

StatMuse:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...deep-ball-2021

NFL Next Generation Stats:

https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-st...or-new-teams-i

PFF:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking...s-kyler-murray

Apparently not everyone is in agreement with yours and KnowMo's claim. We'll see how the 'best deep ball passer in the league' does without Metcalf and Lockett to throw to down the field . . . . . .

The main difference between what I linked and what you did is that my source used 5 years of stats from 2016-2020. All 3 of yours only referenced 2021.

TomBarndtsTwin · 08-23-2022, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

The main difference between what I linked and what you did is that my source used 5 years of stats from 2016-2020. All 3 of yours only referenced 2021.

Is there a reason you failed to include 2021, being as it is the most recent season and the most relevant data point?

Why should anyone care what kind of deep passer DangeRuss was in 2016? Or 2017? Or 2020 for that matter? How is that relevant to today?

As many have pointed out in this very thread, DangeRuss isn't the young spry chicken he once was and has lost some of his athleticism and mobility. (As all QB's do when they age)

I'm more interested in what kind of passer he is NOW and how that compares to other deep ball passers in the NFL right NOW. But I get you guys don't want to do that.

So if all you Donko fans want to keep pretending 2022 Russ is the same guy as 2016 Russ or 2017 Russ, etc. etc., by all means, don't let me rain on your parade.

I'm sure he hasn't lost a step or any arm strength at all . . . . . .

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BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $4595267	The whole drum up to that opening Monday night will be "what will the Denver's offense look like". I have a hard time believing NFL corporate will let them lose...it has all the earmarks of manufactured season. The only question is if they really are terrible...whats lengths are they willing to go to. Raiders had eight 4th quarter comebacks in their 12-4 season...so in 2/3rds of their wins...they were trailing towards the end. Every measurable metric said they were a 8-9 win team...
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