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Old 11-21-2019, 10:45 PM  
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Well, he said it was going to be different.



Starts at $40k, though. That's impressive.
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Old 09-05-2021, 10:10 AM   #451
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What? Fuel mileage? If all you’re doing is short trips to the hardware store, how the hell does fuel mileage even register? Or are you talking daily driver?

Even then, the comparative cost of the damned thing, unless you’re buying Maserati’s or something matters way way way more than fuel mileage will.

My half ton (before it got ****ing destroyed) would get 18 with 1000 pounds of tools and short trips all over the farm on shit roads.

Fuel mileage is not a thing.

I mean as a daily driver for ten years. I definitely haven’t crunched any numbers but I’m going to assume 18 mpg over ten years is quite a bit more costly than an electric and more than a small suv. I’m not married to that idea though. I do like the idea of electric in general as well.
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Old 09-05-2021, 02:41 PM   #452
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I mean as a daily driver for ten years. I definitely haven’t crunched any numbers but I’m going to assume 18 mpg over ten years is quite a bit more costly than an electric and more than a small suv. I’m not married to that idea though. I do like the idea of electric in general as well.
Electric as a commuter vehicle is the move, sure.

I just don’t understand why fuel mileage scared you away from a pickup until now.

I have no idea what you’re driving now but say it’s a 25 mpg 20K sedan.

The difference in purchase price is far more than fuel mileage. And that part won’t change with an electric.
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Old 09-05-2021, 08:58 PM   #453
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Electric as a commuter vehicle is the move, sure.

I just don’t understand why fuel mileage scared you away from a pickup until now.

I have no idea what you’re driving now but say it’s a 25 mpg 20K sedan.

The difference in purchase price is far more than fuel mileage. And that part won’t change with an electric.

I wouldn’t say fuel mileage has scared me away like it’s the deciding factor, though it is at least part of it. I’ve dabbled in looking at trucks but for me one thing that has actually been the most problematic is that if I want a full size cab (must have) I’m really sacrificing on truck bed length unless I just get something huge, which I don’t want.

So what I’ve also been thinking about is getting a suv and a trailer which requires me to find a place for the trailer. So I guess I’m not really comparing in my mind a 40k to 20k car when thinking about costs. But if I can get a truck (more convenient than suv/trailer) with one extra benefit such as electric, which I also like the idea of no emissions, it’s something that can tip me to a truck. Essentially, if I where to get a truck, I see no reason not to go electric for my situation so I will consider this route provided I can wait that long.
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Old 09-06-2021, 02:08 PM   #454
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And it looks like a pickup....



I'm no ford fan but this is much more appealing than the cybertruck.

That being said the cyber truck isn't necessarily dead. There are some SERIOUS Fanbois around. Just see this thread.
100% agree, I'm no Ford fan but if GM doesn't catch up I may have to try-out a Ford.

But I won't be trading-in my fossil fuel burners any time soon.
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Old 09-06-2021, 02:19 PM   #455
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100% agree, I'm no Ford fan but if GM doesn't catch up I may have to try-out a Ford.

But I won't be trading-in my fossil fuel burners any time soon.
Just it being Ford, I'm definitely not buying a first gen ****ing anything.

I'll let someone else beta test.
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Just it being Ford, I'm definitely not buying a first gen ****ing anything.

I'll let someone else beta test.
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I'm about through waiting for this. Maybe I'll pull the trigger on the Rivian. It's just that Tesla has such great super charging infrastructure and it would be a super miserable experience to travel long distances with any other electric vehicle currently on the market.



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To me the cyber truck says that they’re setting out to make something different, not just an electric version of an F-150 which most people are going to look at and say, why don’t I just stick with the regular F-150 that I know is great and reliable in any situation.

I hope they catch on, but I think they might have a higher hill to climb with truck buyers, similar to how a lot of people scoff at the electric mustang.
Elon has said he wants the CT to be the equivalent of a big rig in terms of durability...meaning, a million mile life. The thing is over-engineered to the nth degree. It truly is a situation where form follows function.
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We don’t load trailers while connected to a truck, we rotate trailers.



You show up, drop the trailer you have back under a loaded one and leave. Then a tractor with a ball picks up the empty and backs it to the chute. That trailer is then loaded behind the tractor until the next truck arrives, then it starts over. The trucks don’t stop long enough to charge at the farm, if they had a charger on the way that would put 35 miles on in 10 mins our average length of gas stop that would be nice





Also it needs to be able to tow about 4000 lbs more for it to make it past the first requirement I have for it



What farms are notorious for shady electric work? How do you know I do what I please?
You can definitely already get 35 miles in 10 minutes at a supercharger, but you probably won't be installing one of those on the farm.

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Which is pretty much the position that I've taken, but then you've got dudes like aturnis saying THERE IS NOTHING A GASSER CAN DO THAT THIS CAN'T. and TOOLBOXES ARE WORTHLESS that I feel compelled to push back on.
I feel attacked! Jk. Seriously though, if you're in just about any form of construction, you should be an early adopter. Especially if you're a decent sized company with lots of trucks. I work construction and there aren't many trades I work with who wouldn't immediately lower their operating costs going electric.

Ironically, around here, the only trade who might not be able to is solar installers. Their area of operation is so large, unless they have supercharger access an hour or on every highway out of town they would have some close calls and maybe some strandings.

Not many contractors drive 2 hrs each way in a day other than them.

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I wonder what proportion of people with trucks use it for truck purposes. I live in the middle of a city so my perspective is skewed, but the trucks I see are not fording creeks or hauling cattle trailers.



In more rural areas, you undoubtedly have a lot more working trucks. But even in a small town I have a feeling that half of the trucks are purchased as a style choice rather than a need.
Probably half are pavement princesses

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Yeah you really think electricity is going to stay cheap ? California already has brown outs in summer time. Or how bout when the wind starts blowing and they half to shut down so it doesn’t burn up? Oh yeah how we going to make all this cheap electricity? They don’t want nukes and coal is to dirty .I don’t get it windmills and solar panels ain’t going to cut it
Batteries. It'll be pretty cheap and easy. Installs are quick and savings are large and immediate.

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They are not low maintenance really. They are worse for the environment when you calculate that the batteries cannot be truly disposed of or recycled. Look at how bad the Prius and others like it are for the planet.

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I've never seen so much misinformation in one post.

1. Gasoline is inefficient. Best case is 28% efficient in the average car and it only goes down from there. Most every is lost to heat. So kWh/kWh, electric requires 1/4 - 1/3 less energy. Even the dirtiest coal plant is still cleaner, you underestimate his dirty fossil fuels and their supply chains are

2. Batteries are absolutely recyclable as metals are nearly infinitely recyclable. The average Tesla battery is worth about $1000 to a recycler at end-of-life. Redwood Materials created by Tesla longtime #2 JB Straubel already recycled batteries and turns the minerals into battery ready products which they sell to actual customers.

Stop repeating lies you've heard for the last 20 yrs.

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