*****The Rashee Rice Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come!

Mahomes knew Rashee Rice was his guy after throwing with him in Dallas.@AdamLefkoe with the scoop �� pic.twitter.com/X8ZAab22kM

— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) April 29, 2023

Rashee Rice | WR | SMU

One of the best WR prospects at the catch point and winning leverage mid-route. He consistently sets up defenders to put them on his back, locates the ball, and attacks it at the highest point.

Skill set is wild for a 6' 200lb WR. pic.twitter.com/ClxW4SJvi5

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) February 16, 2023

Rashee Rice was drafted with pick 55 of round 2 in the 2023 draft class. He scored a 9.53 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 145 out of 3062 WR from 1987 to 2023. https://t.co/lwD9tvVPvv pic.twitter.com/YjucxErSE1

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 29, 2023

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Watching a bit of highlights , he comes down with a lot of bad prayer balls , and he looked like he was running with an injury something in his gait , maybe just seeing things . If he can get open vs man even if it’s just 5-7 yards down field and catches the ball I’m good .

He played on a broken toe. Good eye.

[O.city]

He’s coming from a smaller school so it’ll probably be an adjustment period. Doubt we get much from him this year with the vets in front of him but should be a good long term play

[notorious]

145th out of 3062 NFL athletes.

That's pretty damn good.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm sure he liked Flowers, but we already have the comp to him in Toney. Johnston I think was overrated, but we'll see. Both went too high to grab anyway, and Rice was the guy they could get to.

Flowers reminded me of Golden Tate. Nice player but not worth a trade up for.

Johnston gave me Shenault vibes.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Flowers reminded me of Golden Tate. Nice player but not worth a trade up for.

Johnston gave me Shenault vibes.

I think Flowers is more explosive than that. I see him as more a Toney-type.

agree on Johnston. I don't see that as a first rounder. Just my opinion.

Rice I fell in love with early in the process. I just see Deandre Hopkins when I watch his tape.

[Danguardace]

Seriously we are going to have to start getting used to not focusing on 40 times, Cooper Kupp ran a 4.62. I bet Juju if he did a 40 last season would be high 4.5s. It doesn't make you a great WR alone

[In58men]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

Seriously we are going to have to start getting used to not focusing on 40 times, Cooper Kupp ran a 4.62. I bet Juju if he did a 40 last season would be high 4.5s. It doesn't make you a great WR alone

It’s all about route running my man.

Imagine how dangerous Renfrow would be if he had a legit QB. He’s so ****ing underrated.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think Flowers is more explosive than that. I see him as more a Toney-type.

agree on Johnston. I don't see that as a first rounder. Just my opinion.

Rice I fell in love with early in the process. I just see Deandre Hopkins when I watch his tape.

Flowers is electric with the ball in his hands. His ability to get open on his own not comparable to Toney, IMO.

[RunKC]

He reminds us all of DeAndre Hopkins on the deep balls but when he does the screens and intermediate stuff, I feel like I’m seeing Brandon Aiyuk

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He reminds us all of DeAndre Hopkins on the deep balls but when he does the screens and intermediate stuff, I feel like I’m seeing Brandon Aiyuk

Well, that's a nice blend of talent. I'll take it.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by RunKC

He reminds us all of DeAndre Hopkins on the deep balls but when he does the screens and intermediate stuff, I feel like I’m seeing Brandon Aiyuk

Physically, he's like a clone of Aiyuk.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Physically, he's like a clone of Aiyuk.

Nearly of Hopkins as well.

[staylor26]

If you wanted Johnston like myself, Rice is a really nice consolation prize.

Like Johnston, he just really compliments Toney and Moore perfectly, and I'm excited to see those 3 grow into a potentially great trio.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

When you look at Rice's RAS, and particularly his 'explosion' grades, you see that he's got a HUGE vertical. He can really go up and get it. And you see that on the tape. This is the element of his game that reminds me so much of Dhop, and the body control is really special. He's a 4.5 guy, not a burner, so if you're conditioned to lust for Hill-style WR's, you're not going to be thrilled.



Now, if you want to argue that maybe he relies on that too much, sure, that may be. But if he's singled covered, you can pretty much throw it to him high and he's going to come down with it. How frustrating has it been to watch Higgins and Chase do that to us for the last few years?



As a Juju comp, I'd say they can do similar things, although the '22 version of Juju is much, much slower and less explosive due to the constant knee thing and prior injuries. I think that's why KC let him go. He wasn't a guy that could afford to slow down much at all and still be effective. He was getting by on smarts and technique at this point.

From watching all videos I could find, other than looking slower than his 40 time, it's the lack of separation that concerns me. Making contested catches is great, but if you can't separate from college DBs, you certainly aren't going to separate from NFL DBs, and it won't be as easy to make those contested catches.

Just from watching what's available online, it seems like Mims would fit the offense better. He is more explosive, and even though he is smaller than Rice, he seems to be more physical with defenders, and creates separation and space, and then makes big plays.

Rice doesn't seem very explosive after the catch. Again, I like Rice, and I hope Mahomes is right about him. But, if they think Toney can really be the WR1, why wouldn't you want to add another receiver with the same type of skills?

When it's all said and done, we still have the best QB on the planet, and he made Albert Wilson and Wrong Way Robinson look like good receivers, so as long as Rice learns the offense quicker than Skyy Moore, Rice should have a nice rookie season.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

From watching all videos I could find, other than looking slower than his 40 time, it's the lack of separation that concerns me. Making contested catches is great, but if you can't separate from college DBs, you certainly aren't going to separate from NFL DBs, and it won't be as easy to make those contested catches.

Just from watching what's available online, it seems like Mims would fit the offense better. He is more explosive, and even though he is smaller than Rice, he seems to be more physical with defenders, and creates separation and space, and then makes big plays.

Rice doesn't seem very explosive after the catch. Again, I like Rice, and I hope Mahomes is right about him. But, if they think Toney can really be the WR1, why wouldn't you want to add another receiver with the same type of skills?

When it's all said and done, we still have the best QB on the planet, and he made Albert Wilson and Wrong Way Robinson look like good receivers, so as long as Rice learns the offense quicker than Skyy Moore, Rice should have a nice rookie season.

Here's my opinion on the matter and what I'm going to say is no disrespect to you.

When we sit here and breakdown how he looks "on tape"...we're going off of highlight videos. We're not watching game tape of every single one of his games. We're also doing it through the lense of a fan. Veach, and his scouts, do this for a living. Does that mean that they're perfect? No. But they're a hell of a lot more experienced than anyone on this board.

They also get the opportunity to talk to his coaches and to sit down with him. They get the chance to have him diagnose plays and coverages. Pick his brain on what happened during certain plays.

So when people come in here and instantly go with "yeah well this guy would have been better" or "this guy was right there and we passed on him"....they're talking out their ass. They're looking at a 3 minute highlight video, or a write-up by a "draft expert" and basing it off of that. They don't know shit about how that player would fit into this offense.