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Old 09-29-2024, 03:10 PM  
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Who should we trade for if Rice is out?
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Old 09-30-2024, 12:29 PM   #451
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What about younger depth pieces that we could acquire? Guys like…

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Old 09-30-2024, 12:31 PM   #452
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Ideally a trade would happen this week or right after the MNF game to give an opportunity to incorporate the new addition during the bye week.
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Old 09-30-2024, 12:31 PM   #453
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Between his character and his play, I'm not sure how many teams would take him for free at this point.

Where is he an improvement over the current QB?

Browns are ****ed and ****ed hard.
Oh there are none. They'd have to attach at LEAST a first rounder to him, IMO.

And they're bad enough this year that it might just be enough.
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Old 09-30-2024, 12:33 PM   #454
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In Burt Veech I trust.

That said, my armchair GM ass would bring Ross up and avoid stone hands players like Amari Cooper. Nothing worse than a WR that can't catch.
So instead let’s bring up a guy who can’t line up correctly and doesn’t know the playbook…..sure….

I’ll never understood Chiefs’ fans fascination with Justyn Ross….if he had ANYTHING to meaningfully contribute, he’d be on the roster.
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Old 09-30-2024, 12:33 PM   #455
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If they're young and available, they almost certainly suck.

Right now there are fans asking themselves that question about Skyy Moore.

Teams don't give up young talent that can contribute quickly unless they're character problems. And most of the time they're just lousy.
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Old 09-30-2024, 12:38 PM   #456
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A question I wonder is if some team would pay Watson $46M a year for two years? While that seems like a lot...It's not even going to be in teh top 10 QB salaries come next off season.

Browns could trade Watson away and the new team would only pay $46M a year for two years and while 2025 would be hella dead money for the Browns, 2026 they gain over $19M in Savings.
Deshaun Watson is not worth more than $10M per year right now. Generally you want above 60/100 in QBR. Here’s what he has done in Cleveland:

2022: 40/100 QBR in 6 games
2023: 44/100 QBR in 6 games
2024: 24/100 QBR in 4 games

Average of less than 40/100 QBR across 16 games. That’s pretty rough.
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Out of respect for MNF is Veach waiting till Tuesday to get Cooper? HA

He has to become a Chief soon.
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If they're young and available, they almost certainly suck.

Right now there are fans asking themselves that question about Skyy Moore.

Teams don't give up young talent that can contribute quickly unless they're character problems. And most of the time they're just lousy.
Yeah I feel like that’s just repeating the Toney and Ritchie James mistake. It does feel tempting though to think there are guys like Mingo or Michael Wilson who just need a competent environment.

But right now I want a proven piece versus an experiment. Rice and worthy seem like guys we can build around
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Old 09-30-2024, 12:42 PM   #459
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Old 09-30-2024, 12:43 PM   #460
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Deshaun Watson is not worth more than $10M per year right now. Generally you want above 60/100 in QBR. Here’s what he has done in Cleveland:

2022: 40/100 QBR in 6 games
2023: 44/100 QBR in 6 games
2024: 24/100 QBR in 4 games

Average of less than 40/100 QBR across 16 games. That’s pretty rough.
Yeah I’m not sure if he’s even worth that. Think I read somewhere that as bad bad bad as browns QBs have been over the past 20 years Deshaun’s been one of the worst. And that’s with weapons and a reasonably competent offensive coach. Nevermind the baggage, purely based on his play he’s a disaster
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I know we’ve kicked the tires on this before but DHop is intriguing too. Our opening script yesterday seemed like the stuff you want to dial up for him. I think you can script some simple shit for him so there’s not as much of a learning curve. I doubt Tennessee would deal him to us but if you’re them, why not get some value out of a guy they aren’t gonna keep next year
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Kareem Hunt has saved this offense.
We are just going to beat the shit out of people with Kareem and Pacheco behind that interior offensive line. Two tight end sets.

Either that or BRING THE CHEETAH HOME!
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If we are getting someone it can’t be some reclamation project or failed cast off. That would just be a waste and a headache as we spend ten games trying to get him up to speed only to have it ultimately fail anyways. Needs to be someone competent in the Hopkins or Cooper realm that can contribute right away.
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While I certainly want us to move fast on a guy, I wouldn’t be surprised if we roll with what we have this week and lean on JuJu and Gray more. If it is obvious that our offense took such a massive hit w/o Rice that we can’t absorb it, then we have no choice.

Again, I personally want to move now.
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