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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:05 PM   #451
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Which wasn’t going to happen with Hill on this roster. You can thank Hill for ****ing up contract negotiations for that one.
Yeah, Hill really ****ed us by dragging this shit out, while REALLY helping himself out. That's life, and that's why I don't get overly attached to players any longer. The Chiefs have to do what's best for the Chiefs, and the players have to do what's best for them. My personal incentives won't ever align with the players, so it is what it is.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:05 PM   #452
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I don’t understand how this isn’t the needed move? Instead of 1 pick in the top 60 and a gigantic contract weighing us down we now have:

3 picks in the top 50 + our late 2nd
Multiple 3rd and 4th rd picks as ammo to trade up
A lot of cap space to sign players

This was a needed move and I don’t think losing Tyreek will cripple us. FFS we have Mahomes, Andy Reid, a top 10 OL, Kelce, Hardman, Juju and ammo for a 1st rd WR. Our offense isn’t going to fall apart
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:05 PM   #453
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Tyreek - 5th

Smith - 3rd

Sneed - 4th

The Chiefs do pretty well with lottery tickets…
The Chiefs had the luxury of using Tyreek as a gadget player his rookie season and he only started one game as he learned the offense.

They had Maclin as an established #1 WR.

If the plan is to draft Tyreek's replacement, then that rookie WR needs to be able to start and have an immediate impact from day one.

Unless you are okay rolling with JuJu and Hardman as your opening day starting WR's.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:05 PM   #454
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:06 PM   #455
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I'm not sure I get the argument that this was dumb because we are losing a year in Patrick's prime. If that's your stance and you give Hill the bag you likely lose 2 years of PMIII's prime digging out of cap hell in '23-'25 because of the contract you give Reek this year. We were always going to have to take some steps back to reload, deciding to do it now by stockpiling cheap, controllable assets is not the worst idea.

It SUCKS to lose #10 but that was his choice more than ours. Giving into crazy contract numbers is a catch-22 that would give us a better chance to win this year but immediately lowers our odds of winning in future years.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:06 PM   #456
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But on a side note I cannot imagine the Chiefs doing this without a plan in place. So we will see in the next few days ...
I'm really worried that Veach got caught flat footed here.

I refuse to believe he went into the offseason planning to trade Tyreek Hill.
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Hill draws so much attention.

When you take him out everyone gets worse.

Hardman is a fun gadget player. That's it.

JuJu is a complimentary WR without an alpha in front of him.

That's what we need to find...it's possible but not easy at all.
Won't even pretend Hardman and juju can replace hill but he does play better when he plays hills role instead of side by side. And a lot of jujus struggles have to do with horrific qb play. Yeah right now we're rough. But adding a legit extra wr and we end up at least OK. It's not a complete rebuild and we still have some options with free agency and a deep draft
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You can’t replace Hill. That’s a given. But if you can replace him with two WRs who can get open in their own right….then it’s harder for the defense to focus on one player.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:06 PM   #459
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The more I think about it, I’m shocked Reid signed off on this…

I was completely alright with the idea of trading Hill but I don’t think they got enough…
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I don’t understand how this isn’t the needed move? Instead of 1 pick in the top 60 and a gigantic contract weighing us down we now have:

3 picks in the top 50 + our late 2nd
Multiple 3rd and 4th rd picks as ammo to trade up
A lot of cap space to sign players

This was a needed move and I don’t think losing Tyreek will cripple us. FFS we have Mahomes, Andy Reid, a top 10 OL, Kelce, Hardman, Juju and ammo for a 1st rd WR. Our offense isn’t going to fall apart
I expect a cheetah like player to be drafted by the Chiefs this year because that's the style Andy likes
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