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**KcMizzou** · 07-08-2010, 08:18 PM

Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)

ChiliConCarnage · 05-24-2015, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

Reading back through these posts, DC is very underrated here. Someone even mentioned that they weren't sure if he had anything for the top level LHW's.....really? This is a dude that has lost exactly ONE fight, to Jon Jones. Prior to that, he was undefeated, including fighting undersized at heavyweight against guys like Josh Barnett and Antonio Silva. Not to mention absolutely manhandling Dan Henderson on the ground their entire fight. The dude is legit.

Warmest Regards Timbone,

I was the person who made that comment so I'll respond. First, I'll admit to an irrational hatred of "wrastlers". This is not their fault but a failure in the current scoring system that allows singularly skilled guys in this one ability to win consistently over more skilled MMA combatants.

I hate that GSP, who was a very exciting fighter at one point, realized he was better off wrastle****ing people for the rest of his career after taking a loss.

DC seems nice /SR

**Bufkin** · 05-24-2015, 06:32 AM

I put 50 on Daniel Cormier and have happily received 105 dollars in my bank account this morning. Not trying to be a hipster, but he's better than Jones. Their fight last year was bad planning by Cormier and an underwhelming 5 round performance by Jones.

Here's to hoping Jonny Bones Nose can avoid further felony hit and runs with pregnant women so his groupies will shut the hell up about him being invincible. Cormier wins next time, cementing himself as the best 205 pound fighter in the world.

Oh, and Donald Cerrone>>>>>>

**alnorth** · 05-24-2015, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Warmest Regards Timbone,

I was the person who made that comment so I'll respond. First, I'll admit to an irrational hatred of "wrastlers". This is not their fault but a failure in the current scoring system that allows singularly skilled guys in this one ability to win consistently over more skilled MMA combatants.

I hate that GSP, who was a very exciting fighter at one point, realized he was better off wrastle****ing people for the rest of his career after taking a loss.

DC seems nice /SR

I do not like wrestlers who just lay on someone and throw token strikes to stay "busy", but DC was not that last night. He was always actively looking for a submission, and almost had Rumble's arm a couple times in the first round, and got the submission in round 3. It never got close to a decision.

**alnorth** · 05-24-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

I put 50 on Daniel Cormier and have happily received 105 dollars in my bank account this morning.

I feel the same way about the entertainment value I got for my PPV dollar. If I knew in advance it would be that kind of night, I would have paid $100 for that.

BigCatDaddy · 05-24-2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

I feel the same way about the entertainment value I got for my PPV dollar. If I knew in advance it would be that kind of night, I would have paid $100 for that.

Yeah. AA/Browne, Cerrone, and Weidman/Vitor were all very exciting. A DC grinder outer was just let down excitement wise following those 3 fights.

BigCatDaddy · 05-24-2015, 08:44 AM

I just hope they dont try to make DC/Bader a PPV headliner if they go that route.

**alnorth** · 05-24-2015, 10:12 AM

Apparently Cowboy had broken ribs going into the fight

Sorter · 05-24-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

And since when is douchiness factored into the ability to fight. Guys in here were pretty much writing him off and assuming that he (an olympic level wrestler) would have trouble tonight handling a guy that is notorious for being handled by wrestlers. Rumble was wrestle****ed by Josh Koscheck for crying out loud.

Kos is pretty good at wrestling. He was much better before he destroyed his neck in college but there isn't any shame in getting wrestle****ed by Kos back in 2009.

Sorter · 05-24-2015, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Right. Not sure what the UFC could have done but Im sure they were pulling for Rumble as to not have the cloud you speak of hovering. At least Rumble hadnt been pounded by JJ so they could sale that.

They should give Rumble a "gimme" fight, then set up Rumble vs. Gus.

58-4ever · 05-24-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

I put 50 on Daniel Cormier and have happily received 105 dollars in my bank account this morning. Not trying to be a hipster, but he's better than Jones. Their fight last year was bad planning by Cormier and an underwhelming 5 round performance by Jones.

Here's to hoping Jonny Bones Nose can avoid further felony hit and runs with pregnant women so his groupies will shut the hell up about him being invincible. Cormier wins next time, cementing himself as the best 205 pound fighter in the world.

Oh, and Donald Cerrone>>>>>>

He's NOT better than Jones. His strength was supposed to be wrestling and Jones even out wrestled him. Dislike Jones all you want and call him all then names that you want, but he's the best Light Heavyweight in the world and it's not even close.

58-4ever · 05-24-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

They should give Rumble a "gimme" fight, then set up Rumble vs. Gus.

Again? Rumble nearly MURDERED Gus in his homeland.

Sorter · 05-24-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever

Again? Rumble nearly MURDERED Gus in his homeland.

I just can't think of who else is close at 205 to competing for the title.

Maybe Vitor or Lyoto bump back up but I'm struggling to think of quality matchups at 205. There's Bader (who isn't going to have a good fight with Rumble), Texeira (which could have 1st round fireworks but probably won't be a great fight) and then Gus.

So, Anthony gets one win against one of those 3 that could potentially fight for the title (knocking them back 2 fights to challenge) then rematches DC (assuming Jones isn't back then)? IMO, it'd be better off to pair Rumble and those 3 mentioned with 8-15th ranked guys, and see what happens. It sucks that LHW is so shallow when it's been a good/great division for so long.

BigCatDaddy · 05-24-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

I just can't think of who else is close at 205 to competing for the title.

Maybe Vitor or Lyoto bump back up but I'm struggling to think of quality matchups at 205. There's Bader (who isn't going to have a good fight with Rumble), Texeira (which could have 1st round fireworks but probably won't be a great fight) and then Gus.

So, Anthony gets one win against one of those 3 that could potentially fight for the title (knocking them back 2 fights to challenge) then rematches DC (assuming Jones isn't back then)? IMO, it'd be better off to pair Rumble and those 3 mentioned with 8-15th ranked guys, and see what happens. It sucks that LHW is so shallow when it's been a good/great division for so long.

It pretty much was the main division for many years. JJ cleaned it out and there isnt much coming up that ive seen. It might now be the weakest division in the UFC

**TimBone** · 05-24-2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Kos is pretty good at wrestling. He was much better before he destroyed his neck in college but there isn't any shame in getting wrestle****ed by Kos back in 2009.

Yeah, I wasn't knocking Kos's wrestling at all. His wrestling is great. I was just pointing out that Rumble has been handled by wrestlers much smaller than Cormier. And while I understand Rumble is bigger now that he's not damn near killing himself to cut to WW, there was little reason to believe that a bigger wrestler like Cormier wouldn't have success against him as well.

**TimBone** · 05-24-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Warmest Regards Timbone,

I was the person who made that comment so I'll respond. First, I'll admit to an irrational hatred of "wrastlers". This is not their fault but a failure in the current scoring system that allows singularly skilled guys in this one ability to win consistently over more skilled MMA combatants.

I hate that GSP, who was a very exciting fighter at one point, realized he was better off wrastle****ing people for the rest of his career after taking a loss.

DC seems nice /SR

Yeah, I'm with you. While I don't consider GSP to be the traditional definition of lay and pray (I think Jon Fitch is a better example), I did get frustrated watching a lot of his fights. He attempted to pass guards, and he attenpyed subs when in control, he just made sure doing so wasn't going to cost him losing control of his position. It turned him from an exciting fighter into a very safe grinder. Successful, but frustrating to watch. I ended up watching his fights and rooting for his opponent out of frustration.

My only problem with peoples comments in this thread regarding Cormier is that folks were letting their personal feelings dictate their predictions and fighter analysis. That's all.

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05-24-2015, 10:12 AM	#4612
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