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They had never won a SB prior to 1999. > they had 6 seasons with double digit wins from 1980-1999 > they had 7 playoff appearances in those 19 seasons > they had a 6-7 playoff record > 9 seasons over .500 > 7 seasons under .500 > 231 wins and 278 losses That can rank as 'pretty good'... and Belichick had a losing record as a HC, having recently spurned the Jets (IIRC) for their HC job prior to going to NE. They get all the credit for drafting Brady, even as late as they did... but he only started because Bledsoe got hurt. So, I don't know that I would paint that situation as you did, but it's totally your opinion and there's nothing wrong with it. I just don't think the history supports it.
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1966 (merger) through 2021: Denver 473 wins and Chiefs 463 wins 1966 (merger) through 1989: Denver 185 wins and Chiefs 169 wins 1960 through 1989: Chiefs 213 wins and Denver 207 wins 1960 through 1982: Chiefs 167 wins and Denver 134 wins Pat Bowlen turned the franchise around when he bought the team. I'm not suggesting that the previous 22 years don't count by any means. Going back to 1960 - The two teams have met each other 124 times (including 1 postseason game), with the Denver Broncos winning 55 games and the Kansas City Chiefs winning 69 games. Mahomes has put KC head in the overall series for sure with his 9 wins (puke).
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Do you disagree? He went 11-5 with Cassel and went to the playoffs last year with a rookie QB who isn't overwhelmingly talented. |
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08-10-2022, 12:12 PM | #45634 |
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08-10-2022, 12:25 PM | #45635 |
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Broncos Country...LETS RIDE!
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08-10-2022, 12:36 PM | #45637 | |
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Bill will go down as the best or one of the top 2-3 best HCs of all time... I'm suggesting that may not be the case had it not been for Brady. There were no strong indicators prior to his arrival in NE that he was the greatest HC of all time. That division as a whole has consistently sucked for soooo long too.
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08-10-2022, 12:37 PM | #45638 | |
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In that 1960-1976 span (birth of the franchise through the year before their first playoff appearance), Broncos led the league in losses with 147 and the Chiefs had 94. And, someone mentioned how bad the last 15 years or so have been (pre/post Manning). It's interesting that the Broncos have 127 losses and Chiefs have 122 losses in the last 16 seasons (I used that timeframe to match the 16 year timeframe above). The Chiefs have 151 wins and the Broncos have 146 wins in that most recent 16 year span. So many ways to slice and dice things.
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I compared the worst era for KC to the worst era for Denver. Both exactly 17 seasons. The point was that they basically cancel each other out. |
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08-10-2022, 01:01 PM | #45640 | |
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I made reference to the absolute worst period for Denver in those 60/70 seasons and you followed with a comment that things were similar in that era and likely a wash. (paraphrasing) So, I just put it out there that those first 16 seasons were tragically more worse than anyone... sure, KC had some bad stretches there as well, but nothing like that 16 year run of shit. Denver started changing that following year (1977) when they put Morton behind center, they advance to the playoffs for the first time and faced Morton's former team in the SB. After that, there were 5 years of decent success and then Bowlen buys the team... Elway comes to town and that my friend is when this culture of winning started.
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That's rich...
Since I caught you in a rare moment of disclosure... Had Manning not made the choice to deliberate skirt NFL protocols...and not only used HGH to heal a neck that Indianapolis's medical experts were convinced was irreparable...but continued it's use to set NFL records...what would be the realistic trajectory of the Donks past decade with Tebow and Horseface at the helm? The drunkard became exposed the moment Manningstein's arm fell off...and HGH-boys ability to recruit FA ring-chasers ended. My guess is Reid's dominance over your cheating scumbag of a franchise would extend back into the Smith era....Sanders wouldn't have touched your team. Last edited by BlackOp; 08-10-2022 at 01:14 PM.. |
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08-10-2022, 01:11 PM | #45642 | |
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Started out with a 5-11 season with the Pats, and in their first Super Bowl season, they had a really rough start before Bledsoe got hurt. I think while a Bledsoe was a better QB at the time overall, Brady was more risk-averse in that initial season, and that's what won them the necessary regular season games to get into the playoffs. They probably would have put shit together eventually with Bledsoe, but who knows how long that would have taken. More than likely they don't go to the playoffs that year. Would the team have had the patience to stick by him? A lot of what kept Belichick so successful was the winning momentum, because winning will solve most if not all of the misery that is the Patriot Way. Without those wins, does the team gel at all? Does Brady ever get a chance? |
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08-10-2022, 01:16 PM | #45643 |
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Will the Donks incorporate the Walmart yellow vest and logo into the uniform this year or next?
Someone with photoshop skills needs to get on this.
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08-10-2022, 01:19 PM | #45644 |
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That little window of "Donk excellence" falls directly at the feet of performance enhancing drugs.
No HGH...no Manning. No Manning...no Ware, Ward, Talib, Sanders...it was essentially the team that illegal pharma built. |
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08-10-2022, 01:23 PM | #45645 |
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I've heard the donks will change names to Denver Checkouts. In honor of their checkout lanes but mostly because they check out by mid season every year.
This logo needs to be on donk helmets.
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