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08-10-2022, 10:13 AM | #45616 |
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08-10-2022, 10:22 AM | #45617 | |
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08-10-2022, 10:23 AM | #45618 |
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The Patriots have played in 2 SBs w/out Brady and an AFL championship. They also went 11-5 with Matt Cassel and returned to the playoffs two years after Brady left, with a mediocre rookie QB. They've only had 9 losing seasons since 1975.
And if you're arguing that they dominated the NFL for 20 years simply because they had Brady, that's funny. They dominated because they consistently made good personnel decisions, drafted well, and had excellent coaching (and some cheating, of course). If Denver had a recent period of dominance anywhere close to what the Patriots did, I wouldn't deny that they're a great organization. |
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08-10-2022, 10:32 AM | #45619 | |
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I’m not saying they’re not a great team (now). I’m really only laughing at your earlier post that a great team is one that consistently wins without a great QB. Do the Broncos get credit for going to the AFCCG with Plummer?
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08-10-2022, 10:37 AM | #45620 | |
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08-10-2022, 10:41 AM | #45621 | |
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My opinion is that a great organization would not have both a 6 year streak and a 5 year streak w/out a playoff appearance in a span of 15 years. That's not just mediocre...that's bad. And you have to admit, for a franchise with a solid history, Denver has had more than its share of lopsided playoff losses. 60% of their playoff appearances (including Elway/Manning) have ended in losses of 17 points or more. Many have been well over 20 points. |
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08-10-2022, 10:51 AM | #45622 | |
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08-10-2022, 11:04 AM | #45623 | |
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I laid out several reasons for why I consider the Patriots a great organization. And there are more. Again, if Denver had won at an absurd level over the last 20 years, I wouldn't deny that they were a great organization. Instead, they've missed the playoffs 11 times in the last 16 years. And one of those playoff appearances was the 8-8 team led by Tebow. IMO, if the Patriots had never drafted Brady, they'd still be considered a pretty good organization. They helped to create Brady, and Belichick would have won at a decent clip with another QB. If the Broncos hadn't acquired Elway or Manning, I think they'd be considered a dogshit organization. Last edited by RaidersOftheCellar; 08-10-2022 at 11:22 AM.. |
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08-10-2022, 11:20 AM | #45624 | |
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Every KC fan admits that they didn't accomplish a lot between the 60s and Mahomes. Yet they still rank several places higher than Denver in all time win %. What's that tell you? |
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08-10-2022, 11:21 AM | #45625 | |
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If we're being honest - the Steelers are probable the most stable and consistent franchise of all-time. The 49ers and Packers are up there with them... Dallas was until the wheels fell off in the mid/late 90s and they've gone a quarter century without anything worth noting. The Cowboys, more than any other team in the last 25 years have done more to tarnish a culture of greatness that had been running wild for decades. We can also judge the merits of playoff quality wins/losses in a different discussion. In order to advance to the playoffs, the team is winning to get there and winning to reach those SBs. The Broncos are tied for 2nd overall in most SB appearances with 8 and that is 3 fewer than the Patriots and tied with the Steelers and Cowboys. The Broncos are tied for 4th with the most SB wins. They have the 6th most wins since the NFL merger... considering they've had their droughts, that's a nice place to be sitting. Now, they need to course correct things and avoid becoming the next Dallas Cowboys. Since 1996 (25 years), the Cowboys have ... > had 11 playoff appearances with a 4 and 11 record in the playoffs > 9 double digit win seasons > 8 sub .500 win seasons It amazes me that the Steelers have had only 3 head coaches in my lifetime (51 years), that's crazy insane.
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08-10-2022, 11:23 AM | #45626 |
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The Athletic's 2022 "breakout players" list...
TE: Albert Okwuegbunam, Denver Broncos
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CB: Patrick Surtain II, Denver Broncos
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https://theathletic.com/3374587/2022...akout-players/ |
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08-10-2022, 11:24 AM | #45627 | |
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08-10-2022, 11:37 AM | #45628 |
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08-10-2022, 11:38 AM | #45629 |
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08-10-2022, 11:41 AM | #45630 |
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