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[RealSNR]

There's nothing more hilarious than a team with one shutdown corner and utter dogcrap for their other CBs.

Like... okay. Good job locking down one guy. That's nice. We're still putting up 40+ points on you miserable pukes

[ptlyon]

Anxiously awaiting today's one good play post

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Anxiously awaiting today's one good play post

I'll bet there's 2... "two for Tuesday".

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

There's nothing more hilarious than a team with one shutdown corner and utter dogcrap for their other CBs.

Like... okay. Good job locking down one guy. That's nice. We're still putting up 40+ points on you miserable pukes

Ronald Darby is a sticky #2 corner and K'Waun Williams has been one of the better nickle corners in the league for a long time. They can hold their own, and if not, it's nice having one of the two or three best free safeties in the league in Justin Simmons to clean up any messes.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

There's nothing more hilarious than a team with one shutdown corner and utter dogcrap for their other CBs.

Like... okay. Good job locking down one guy. That's nice. We're still putting up 40+ points on you miserable pukes

Passer rating when targeted, 2021:

Patrick Surtain: 61.3
Justin Simmons: 66.5
Rashad Fenton: 84.0
Ronald Darby: 84.8
L'Jarius Sneed: 91.9
Juan Thornhill: 108.6

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Where do you even get this nonsense?

“ Russell Wilson’s passing over the middle is phenomenal, as 6 of his 9 touchdowns have come on passes that were either ‘short’ or ‘deep’ middle. So this nonsense that he isn’t efficient or struggles over the middle is bunk.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fie...nesota-vikings

https://readoptional.substack.com/p/...lson-nathaniel

At this point, it’s clear there’s not a Seahawks style or a Schottenheimer style or a Waldron style or a Carroll style. It’s Wilson’s style. His unwillingness to throw over the middle of the field took on meme-level proportions last season. Wilson attempted just two passes per game of 10 yards or more over the middle of the field last year. By comparison, Tom Brady averaged seven such attempts a game, Aaron Rodgers averaged five, Patrick Mahomes is averaging four. In fact, among 34 eligible quarterbacks this season, Wilson ranked 29th in the league in the average number of attempts per game he targets beyond ten yards in the middle of the field. 29th! Russell Wilson!

To play in a Russell Wilson offense means to forfeit the middle of the field, which constricts whatever an offense might like to do. There are only so many nifty route combinations — so many play-action quirks — that a coach can build in to attack the same specific parts when his quarterback voids a huge chunk of the field. It wouldn’t have mattered – seemingly – if the Seahawks had brought in the most radical play designer in the league if Wilson was unwilling to adapt and grow his own game.

Wilson likes to pepper the sidelines with short, sharp throws, betting on his ability to hit what are traditionally low-percentage throws at a high clip – by sticking the ball along the sideline on isolation routes, he’s able to limit turnovers, but often at the cost of sacrificing the middle of the field and all the knock-on benefits that come with stretching the defense in multiple ways.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/co...tm_name=iossmf

https://theathletic.com/3175666/2022...elp-him/?amp=1

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/.amp...-down-failures

So glad you sold the farm for this turd!

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

https://readoptional.substack.com/p/...lson-nathaniel

At this point, it’s clear there’s not a Seahawks style or a Schottenheimer style or a Waldron style or a Carroll style. It’s Wilson’s style. His unwillingness to throw over the middle of the field took on meme-level proportions last season. Wilson attempted just two passes per game of 10 yards or more over the middle of the field last year. By comparison, Tom Brady averaged seven such attempts a game, Aaron Rodgers averaged five, Patrick Mahomes is averaging four. In fact, among 34 eligible quarterbacks this season, Wilson ranked 29th in the league in the average number of attempts per game he targets beyond ten yards in the middle of the field. 29th! Russell Wilson!

To play in a Russell Wilson offense means to forfeit the middle of the field, which constricts whatever an offense might like to do. There are only so many nifty route combinations — so many play-action quirks — that a coach can build in to attack the same specific parts when his quarterback voids a huge chunk of the field. It wouldn’t have mattered – seemingly – if the Seahawks had brought in the most radical play designer in the league if Wilson was unwilling to adapt and grow his own game.

Wilson likes to pepper the sidelines with short, sharp throws, betting on his ability to hit what are traditionally low-percentage throws at a high clip – by sticking the ball along the sideline on isolation routes, he’s able to limit turnovers, but often at the cost of sacrificing the middle of the field and all the knock-on benefits that come with stretching the defense in multiple ways.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/co...tm_name=iossmf

https://theathletic.com/3175666/2022...elp-him/?amp=1

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/.amp...-down-failures

So glad you sold the farm for this turd!

All of those links are exclusively about 2021. The link I provided has passing charts going back to 2016. Strangely, they tell very different stories. I wonder if there was something different about 2021.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Passer rating when targeted, 2021:

Patrick Surtain: 61.3
Justin Simmons: 66.5
Rashad Fenton: 84.0
Ronald Darby: 84.8
L'Jarius Sneed: 91.9
Juan Thornhill: 108.6

Not too bad!

Now that you have the 19th-rated QB, you're in business!

[Quesadilla Joe]

Jeudy gets the rematch with Surtain, beats him deep, and beautifully uses his body to shield Surtain from recovering and breaking the pass up. Keeps his feet in the endzone for the touchdown

Very reminiscent of when Jeudy beat PS2 the other day but Johnson missed on the throw

— Zach Segars (@Zach_Segars) August 9, 2022

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Jeudy gets the rematch with Surtain, beats him deep, and beautifully uses his body to shield Surtain from recovering and breaking the pass up. Keeps his feet in the endzone for the touchdown

Very reminiscent of when Jeudy beat PS2 the other day but Johnson missed on the throw

— Zach Segars (@Zach_Segars) August 9, 2022

I'm confused... is this a positive or a negative, or is it neither because they cancel each other out?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'm confused... is this a positive or a negative, or is it neither because they cancel each other out?

It's pretty obvious, but I'll explain. Surtain has been the unanimous best player in camp, a player who rarely ever loses a rep. Jeudy beating a guy like that is a great thing.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Sounds like Rob Walton has officially joined the club!

I hear applause thru walls to ownership room. #9sports

— Mike Klis (@mikeklis) August 9, 2022

[Quesadilla Joe]

NFL owners have officially approved the $4.65 billion sale of the Denver Broncos to the group led by Walmart heir Rob Walton.

Walton becomes the richest owner in the NFL with a net worth of over $59 billion. The $4.65 billion is the highest price ever paid for a US sports team.

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 9, 2022

[Pepe Silvia]

He will be the next Robert Kraft, great for Denver, bad for everyone else.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Rob Walton said “No. 1 priority” for Broncos is winning … said he and his family “honored” to carry on the success of Pat Bowlen and his family.

— Jeff Legwold (@Jeff_Legwold) August 9, 2022